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Old 09-26-2003, 01:39 PM
Brendan Lynskey
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Default Low-cost ASIC tools

Hi.

Could someone give me a list of companies that sell or lease ASIC
synthesis/test-insertion/layout tools, please?

Thanks!

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Default Re: Low-cost ASIC tools

Low, low cost is to use an FPGA tool and pay
someone to do the translation. Some ASIC vendors
like AMI (and Phillips?) will do translation from
FPGA to ASIC as part of NRE costs of an ASIC.
This may not add as much to the ASIC NRE as you
would think.

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Brendan Lynskey wrote:

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> Could someone give me a list of companies that sell or lease ASIC
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> Thanks!
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Old 09-27-2003, 03:40 AM
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"Brendan Lynskey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi.
> Could someone give me a list of companies that sell or lease ASIC
> synthesis/test-insertion/layout tools, please?
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> Thanks!
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Well, another way at looking at this is if they can afford the mask cost
( around half million at .13 micron )
they can afford the 100 grand in synthesis/test-insertion tools. I have no
idea how much a layout tool cost.
How much do you factor in for the learning time for a layout tool?
You might want to think about just synthesis and then toss the netlist over
the fence to the vendor. The vendor
then can insert scan and do the layout.

OH, there is a book about COTs and ASICs. You might want to look at that. I
have it at work. I'll post it Monday.

Good luck.

Jerry




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