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Old 11-18-2003, 01:15 AM
Symon
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Hi Dan,
Have you considered that this is maybe the opportunity you've been
waiting for to change to a HDL?!
cheers, Symon.

"Dan DeConinck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected].. .
> Hello,
>
> The newest Xilinx tools will not work on Win98. My Viewdraw schematic
> capture win not work on XP so I will need to find a new schematic capture
> tool. I know that Xilinx has one but it is not powerful or user friendly.
>
> What 3rd party schematic capture tools work with the latest Xilinx tools ?
>
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>
>



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Old 11-18-2003, 02:44 AM
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agree.
I started to learn HDL since ISE4.1 no longer integrated Active-HDL but
provide XST.

Dan,
you can use any 3rd party schematic capture tools, and import the edif
files as Xilinx design entry.

Jay
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> Hi Dan,
> Have you considered that this is maybe the opportunity you've been
> waiting for to change to a HDL?!
> cheers, Symon.
>
> "Dan DeConinck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected].. .
> > Hello,
> >
> > The newest Xilinx tools will not work on Win98. My Viewdraw schematic
> > capture win not work on XP so I will need to find a new schematic

capture
> > tool. I know that Xilinx has one but it is not powerful or user

friendly.
> >
> > What 3rd party schematic capture tools work with the latest Xilinx tools

?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 11-18-2003, 03:15 AM
Dan DeConinck
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Default Xilinx Design entry via Schematic Capture - What tool to use ?

Hello,

The newest Xilinx tools will not work on Win98. My Viewdraw schematic
capture win not work on XP so I will need to find a new schematic capture
tool. I know that Xilinx has one but it is not powerful or user friendly.

What 3rd party schematic capture tools work with the latest Xilinx tools ?

Thanks
Dan



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Old 11-18-2003, 07:39 AM
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Symon wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> Have you considered that this is maybe the opportunity you've been
> waiting for to change to a HDL?!
> cheers, Symon.
>
> "Dan DeConinck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected].. .
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>The newest Xilinx tools will not work on Win98. My Viewdraw schematic
>>capture win not work on XP so I will need to find a new schematic capture
>>tool. I know that Xilinx has one but it is not powerful or user friendly.
>>
>>What 3rd party schematic capture tools work with the latest Xilinx tools ?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Dan
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



Nice try -- but HDL will not help me here --- I have XC4000 devices
fielded -- hence I'm stuck with the XACT 5.2.1/6.0.1 tools for place and
route -- Anyways I'm not going to migrate several gate level designs to
HDL, as it doesn't buy me anything.

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Old 11-18-2003, 07:40 AM
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Jay wrote:

> agree.
> I started to learn HDL since ISE4.1 no longer integrated Active-HDL but
> provide XST.
>
> Dan,
> you can use any 3rd party schematic capture tools, and import the edif
> files as Xilinx design entry.
>


Again this is a NO go --- EDIF file does NOT get me there as the XACT
place & route tools only accepts XNF. I've found that Aldec, MYCAD, and
ORcad only outputs EDIF not XNF.

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Old 11-18-2003, 08:57 AM
Uwe Bonnes
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Dan DeConinck <[email protected]> wrote:
: Hello,

: The newest Xilinx tools will not work on Win98. My Viewdraw schematic
: capture win not work on XP so I will need to find a new schematic capture
: tool. I know that Xilinx has one but it is not powerful or user friendly.

: What 3rd party schematic capture tools work with the latest Xilinx tools ?

Have you tried?

There are reports, that 6.1 again works with win98. Best try yourself.

Bye
--
Uwe Bonnes [email protected]

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Old 11-18-2003, 01:58 PM
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:39:09 GMT, JoeG <[email protected]> wrote:

>Symon wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>> Have you considered that this is maybe the opportunity you've been
>> waiting for to change to a HDL?!


>Nice try -- but HDL will not help me here --- I have XC4000 devices
>fielded -- hence I'm stuck with the XACT 5.2.1/6.0.1 tools for place and
>route -- Anyways I'm not going to migrate several gate level designs to
>HDL, as it doesn't buy me anything.


Some of the "newer" tools support XC4000 ... up to 3.1 or so, I think
(but I'm not sure), and accept EDIF input. If you can find them...

- Brian
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Old 11-18-2003, 03:12 PM
Jake Janovetz
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> What 3rd party schematic capture tools work with the latest Xilinx tools ?

Protel DXP does. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with Win98 (I think).
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Old 11-18-2003, 06:22 PM
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"JoeG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> Symon wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan,
> > Have you considered that this is maybe the opportunity you've been
> > waiting for to change to a HDL?!
> > cheers, Symon.
> >
> > "Dan DeConinck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected].. .
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>The newest Xilinx tools will not work on Win98. My Viewdraw schematic
> >>capture win not work on XP so I will need to find a new schematic

capture
> >>tool. I know that Xilinx has one but it is not powerful or user

friendly.
> >>
> >>What 3rd party schematic capture tools work with the latest Xilinx tools

?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Dan

>
> Nice try -- but HDL will not help me here --- I have XC4000 devices
> fielded -- hence I'm stuck with the XACT 5.2.1/6.0.1 tools for place and
> route -- Anyways I'm not going to migrate several gate level designs to
> HDL, as it doesn't buy me anything.
>

Dan, Joe, Whoever,
I googled and found references to EDIF2XNF and XNF2EDIF. Would these
tools help you? I presume you have to re-enter your design anyway if you
change editor? So, could you translate it to HDL, synthesise an EDIF, run
EDIF2XNF?
You have my sympathies, these legacy things are harder and harder to
support. You should set up in business doing it!
cheers, Syms.





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