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Old 04-15-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Where is the xilinx online store gone?

Hi everyone,

As I was buying some components from the Xilinx online store this
morning, I noticed that they no longer support silicon device anymore.
It seems that it is now AVNET that is taking care of distributing
Xilinx FPGA online. The worse thing is that the price is more
expensive, and they do not have all the parts that Xilinx use to offer
(the part I am looking for specially).
Now i've got a few questions for the Xilinx people out there. Is it
really true or if it not, then what is the updated link for your online
section.

Many thanks
Jacques

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Old 04-15-2006, 10:02 PM
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<[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> As I was buying some components from the Xilinx online store this
> morning, I noticed that they no longer support silicon device anymore.
> It seems that it is now AVNET that is taking care of distributing
> Xilinx FPGA online. The worse thing is that the price is more
> expensive, and they do not have all the parts that Xilinx use to offer
> (the part I am looking for specially).
> Now i've got a few questions for the Xilinx people out there. Is it
> really true or if it not, then what is the updated link for your online
> section.
>
> Many thanks
> Jacques
>

avnet possible did not like that xilinx sold directly so xilinx had to
remove the silicon devices from their online shop
really very bad move !

Antti


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Old 04-15-2006, 10:48 PM
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Go to digikey.com, and search for xilinx.
The paper catalog has an extremely poor selection of Xilinx FPGAs, but
the web selection is better.
Their search method is awful :-(
Peter Alfke, from home

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Old 04-15-2006, 10:48 PM
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Go to digikey.com, and search for xilinx.
The paper catalog has an extremely poor selection of Xilinx FPGAs, but
the web selection is better.
Their search method is awful :-(
Peter Alfke, from home

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Old 04-16-2006, 01:21 AM
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Antti Lukats wrote:

> <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>As I was buying some components from the Xilinx online store this
>>morning, I noticed that they no longer support silicon device anymore.
>>It seems that it is now AVNET that is taking care of distributing
>>Xilinx FPGA online. The worse thing is that the price is more
>>expensive, and they do not have all the parts that Xilinx use to offer
>>(the part I am looking for specially).
>>Now i've got a few questions for the Xilinx people out there. Is it
>>really true or if it not, then what is the updated link for your online
>>section.
>>
>>Many thanks
>>Jacques
>>

>
> avnet possible did not like that xilinx sold directly so xilinx had to
> remove the silicon devices from their online shop
> really very bad move !


Yes, it does smack more of political reflex, than rational thinking.

Note that Microchip is moving in the _opposite_ direction - they offer
quotes up to 10K, and recently added factory programming flows to their
on-line order flows.
In other words, they look keen for your business (all volumes), and
seem less under the influence of their distributors.

I had a quick look at the Avnet link, and "not in stock, XX Weeks" was
common.

Thus Xilinx sample procurement seems to have fallen thru the cracks, in
this decision.

-jg


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Old 04-16-2006, 01:31 AM
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Peter Alfke wrote:

> Go to digikey.com, and search for xilinx.
> The paper catalog has an extremely poor selection of Xilinx FPGAs, but
> the web selection is better.
> Their search method is awful :-(


If you find Digikey's interface poor, perhaps Xilinx could learn from
this web link ?

http://www.altera.com/buy/buy-index.html

Some other company seems to have found a way to have a web store, and
an (almost)* workable Digikey link ?
-jg


* I tried MAX7000, and get this bemusing response

emp7
"Manufacturer Part Number: 132 phrase not found"

What, nothing at all ?

Funny, phrase not found reported, plus a _specific_ number ?! -
so I click on the 'phrase not found', as that seems to be
a web link, and voila, finally, EPM7xx listings at Digikey!

Strange that, MAX 3000 works fine - so, some wrinkles to iron out here...

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Old 04-16-2006, 01:47 AM
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Jim Granville wrote:

> * I tried MAX7000, and get this bemusing response
>
> emp7
> "Manufacturer Part Number: 132 phrase not found"
>
> What, nothing at all ?
>
> Funny, phrase not found reported, plus a _specific_ number ?! -
> so I click on the 'phrase not found', as that seems to be
> a web link, and voila, finally, EPM7xx listings at Digikey!
>
> Strange that, MAX 3000 works fine - so, some wrinkles to iron out here...


A little more on this :
Seems strange indeed, as the 'phrase not found' seems to be trying to
indicate not in stock. Only devices with MOQs and high ASPs show up.
Their search button is also called "phrase not found" - oops

However, if I go straigt to Digikey, there are actually plenty of
EPM7xx in stock, with no MOQs ?!

Altera will be eager to fix that

-jg




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Old 04-16-2006, 01:49 AM
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Hello everyone,

Well I have checked on Digikey and they do not have the FPGA we need,
which is the XC3S200-4VQ100C. We have dealt in the past with
Nuhorizons, but we've got some issues with them and we would prefer to
deal directly with god. The Xilinx online shop was next to perfect and
the fact that they were shipping our parts in different shipments was
actually beneficial for us. It saved us on custom and duties that we
had to pay, if we were to receive the parts as a whole. We are a small
startup company and we have long term plans for Xilinx FPGA products.
We had reached the point where we had everything running smoothly, like
after fine tuning your radio receiver to the correct station, but now,
we have to rework everything and adjust everything again. Tonite I am
disappointed with Xilinx. :~(

Jacques

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Old 04-16-2006, 02:39 AM
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Well, I'll try another attack on our demonstrated stupidity.
I have screamed and hollered for almost a year, and sent e-mails up the
ladder, up to one step below the very top.
Maybe I have to go one stop higher.
Steve Knapp and I are very frustrated about this situation.
Obviously, our company could do much better...
Peter Alfke, from home

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Old 04-16-2006, 02:57 AM
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"Jim Granville" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Antti Lukats wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>As I was buying some components from the Xilinx online store this
>>>morning, I noticed that they no longer support silicon device anymore.
>>>It seems that it is now AVNET that is taking care of distributing
>>>Xilinx FPGA online. The worse thing is that the price is more
>>>expensive, and they do not have all the parts that Xilinx use to offer
>>>(the part I am looking for specially).
>>>Now i've got a few questions for the Xilinx people out there. Is it
>>>really true or if it not, then what is the updated link for your online
>>>section.
>>>
>>>Many thanks
>>>Jacques
>>>

>>
>> avnet possible did not like that xilinx sold directly so xilinx had to
>> remove the silicon devices from their online shop
>> really very bad move !


But avnet won't give samples unless your a large
company otherwise you have to purchase them.


> Yes, it does smack more of political reflex, than rational thinking.
>
> Note that Microchip is moving in the _opposite_ direction - they offer
> quotes up to 10K, and recently added factory programming flows to their
> on-line order flows.
> In other words, they look keen for your business (all volumes), and seem
> less under the influence of their distributors.
>


If only they had some chips with a bit more grunt
like an arm7 .

A lot of manufacturers need to learn from microchip.

Philips is quite good, but depends on your local distributor.

> I had a quick look at the Avnet link, and "not in stock, XX Weeks" was
> common.
>
> Thus Xilinx sample procurement seems to have fallen thru the cracks, in
> this decision.
>
> -jg


Simple , avoid using xilinx parts.
Use the companies that want your business.

If the management is to stupid to realise if people
can't get small quantities for prototyping and designs
especially for those doing contract work, we won't use their products,
bad luck ,that is their problem.

Might take a few years to have a budget impact.

Alex


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Old 04-16-2006, 07:01 AM
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"Peter Alfke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> Well, I'll try another attack on our demonstrated stupidity.
> I have screamed and hollered for almost a year, and sent e-mails up the
> ladder, up to one step below the very top.
> Maybe I have to go one stop higher.
> Steve Knapp and I are very frustrated about this situation.
> Obviously, our company could do much better...
> Peter Alfke, from home


Feel free to print out all the comments here and give them
to who ever you need to.

Can't they see that if you loose small sales / prototype quantities
and you competitor looks after that market segment , you are just going to
start bleeding sales
and only be restricted to the large companies.

The small contract designers just stop using xilinx.

But a problem hits a few years down the track, when the large companies
start taking on new
people who prefer to use your competitors tools and devices
as they are familiar with them.

Avnet can be fine for ordering boards and equipment some times but
they are usually quite slow and prefer dealing with large companies.

You guys just want to give sales to Altera , Lattice etc , don't you ?

Alex


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Old 04-16-2006, 09:33 AM
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"Peter Alfke" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> Well, I'll try another attack on our demonstrated stupidity.
> I have screamed and hollered for almost a year, and sent e-mails up the
> ladder, up to one step below the very top.
> Maybe I have to go one stop higher.
> Steve Knapp and I are very frustrated about this situation.
> Obviously, our company could do much better...
> Peter Alfke, from home
>


Dear Peter,

glad to see you to stick up - let me try to help as much as I can (to rock
the higher boat)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My mother did show me a picture of my dad in the history book of Estonian
Aeronautics.

So the strongest male influence from my young years was one simple word,
from one
teacher in the 'rocket model' hobby club. This word is (its one word in
estonian):

"Decision courage"

I do find this word so good one, so good that it qualifies every male giving
to a child nothing more than this one word as a good father.

Xilinx removing the Spartan-3 (and possible other silicon devices) from
direct online offering is a bad example of

"Decision courage-less" (one word in estonian) behaviour.

No matter if the decision to have Silicon Devices (including Spartan-3) in
online shop was later seen as bad decision, it was that sort of "executive
decision" that has to be kept even if it was a bad decision. Stepping back
from it show the weakness of the Xilinx (executives).

There could be 3 reasons for the withdrawal (3 that I and I think most other
people can figure out)

1) Xilinx sees direct sales as too much "hassle" - well if it is so, then no
matter how much hassle it is, Xilinx should stick to the previous executive
decision (to have the silicon devices in online shop)

2) Xilinx has serious availability and/or yield issues and removing the
devices from its own online shop gives a possibility to try to hide and
mascerade those yield problems - by blaming the distrubutors not having
stock (but devices actually being available). Needless to say that all that
kind of 'mascerade' attempts are silly and dont fulfill its purpose at the
end of the day anyway.

3) Xilinx did step back because of pressure of the distributors (mainly
Avnet?) - if that was the reasons then it again demonstrates nothing more
than the weakness of Xilinx as global company and the weakness (decision
courage-less) of Xilinx executives.

....

As of current the status of Xilinx silicon availability is getting worse -

1) Digikey should not be considered as source for Xilinx, they have some
items in stock but what they have is very random, and items that they used
to have may not be available any more any day (specially those you need when
you need).

2) I have never dealt with NuHorizons, but all I have heard is only
problems. To my emails I have never had any response from NuHorizons, so I
am not considering them for anything.

3) I have had several issues with Memec before they merged into Avnet, there
is no memec so no more issues

4) My only purchase from Avnet was 6 month late (despite order
confirmation). Others have expressed the Xilinx parts availability situation
from Avnet worse than from Memec

Thats are the 'sources' for Xilinx components.

Altera has direct online shop, with pretty much pricing and atock info for
latest parts - everyone finds that a very good thing. Not to mention that
everyone I have talked too, have said pretty much one thing - Altera's
software is just simply getting better. Better and better every
release/udpate.

Lattice has no direct online orders, but the stock at disties like Mouser
also for latest parts (machXO, XP) is checkable with a few mouseclicks. Also
other distributors claim immediate fom stock delivery (what I can also
confirm personally having received the parts).

Xilinx has greatly imrpoved the price/perfomrance ration of Xilinx own
evaluation boards after overpriced ML300 so my current primary source for
Xilinx eval boards would be Xilinx direct (online shop), having the silicon
devices orderable as side orders, would be real good thing. If they arent,
well Altera has all from one shop.

Similarly as others have said already, the lack of silicon devices in oline
shop is just another drop to choose alternative vendors.

And dear Xilinx, an even an ocean is made of single drops of water. It's
hard to tell when last drop falls that makes the decision scale to turn over
(in favor of competitive products). But every drop makes that possibility
(of such decisions) closer.

Antti Lukats,
Xilant Tecnologies

PS we will have some (FPGA related product) to launch soon (within 8 weeks
max)














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Old 04-16-2006, 11:19 AM
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hi everybody,

maybe we can do a petition about this xilinx store ?...
i'm French user and i can affirm that Avnet France, preferer (to not says
want ) only big customers ..
they are slow and expensive.. totaly incompatible with prototype phase.

Maybe Xilinx prefer that we try Lattice or others parts ?...

i'm realy not happy against that problem. they can be take example from
Microchip & sample service ...

( sorry for my bad english ! )


Regard's
Philippe




<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> As I was buying some components from the Xilinx online store this
> morning, I noticed that they no longer support silicon device anymore.
> It seems that it is now AVNET that is taking care of distributing
> Xilinx FPGA online. The worse thing is that the price is more
> expensive, and they do not have all the parts that Xilinx use to offer
> (the part I am looking for specially).
> Now i've got a few questions for the Xilinx people out there. Is it
> really true or if it not, then what is the updated link for your online
> section.
>
> Many thanks
> Jacques
>



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Old 04-16-2006, 01:52 PM
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On 15 Apr 2006 18:39:28 -0700, "Peter Alfke" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Well, I'll try another attack on our demonstrated stupidity.
>I have screamed and hollered for almost a year, and sent e-mails up the
>ladder, up to one step below the very top.
>Maybe I have to go one stop higher.
>Steve Knapp and I are very frustrated about this situation.
>Obviously, our company could do much better...
>Peter Alfke, from home


If you want to give an example of someone who has got it right :
http://www.microchipdirect.com/

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Old 04-16-2006, 02:36 PM
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Hi Philippe,

I am totally for that. Like im sure if we could get like 10,000s names,
then we would have achieve something. I was thinking about how they
took the decision of removing the online shop. Just recently, I noticed
that they added the PROM section to the online shop. This lend me to
believe that at one point, they were actually promoting and saw a
future for online shopping, but something happened that made them took
a 180 degrees U turn. I wouldnt be surprised if in late March 2006, the
big bosses of Xilinx and Avnet had lunch in one of these fancy and they
decided: Hey let's do something really bad, let's take out the online
shop. And I am pretty sure that it was instigated by Avnet.

Yesterday, I was checking out their shipping policy and the way they do
business for international customers. Avnet ask that you purchase a
minimum order of $500, if you are from outside the states or canada.
Cmon people, you would get 50 x XC3S100 for that price and this isnt
prototyping anymore. Then, when I think that Xilinx advertise on their
site, in big, brite and bold: "World´s Lowest Cost FPGAs - now
available in prototyping quanties from Avnet"... ironical isnt it,
makes me wonder where we are heading. Lets face it, we have a problem
here and we should find a solution, and quick. Now, Peter and al, you
should advise us of the possible moves that we've got in order to
replace or convice your bosses of getting back our dear online shop.

>From a previously happy canadian customer.

Jacques

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Old 04-16-2006, 02:58 PM
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Jim Granville wrote:

> http://www.altera.com/buy/buy-index.html
> Some other company seems to have found a way to have a web store


In that same link, note that Altera is now making the same
mistake with development software that Xilinx is making
with devices. So it goes.

-- Mike Treseler
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Old 04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
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Antti Lukats wrote:
> Altera's
> software is just simply getting better. Better and better every
> release/udpate.


Which is surprising to me, considering that the initial HDL support
on MAXplus2 was the Subaru 360 of CAE
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/360van-sideview3.jpe

> even an ocean is made of single drops of water. It's
> hard to tell when last drop falls that makes the decision scale to turn over


Last year, at my local ski hill, there were 14 ski schools.
This year, all but 5 were sent packing. Next year there
will be only one ski school.


-- Mike Treseler

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Old 04-16-2006, 03:34 PM
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On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:28:31 -0700) it happened "Mike Treseler"
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Antti Lukats wrote:
>> Altera's
>> software is just simply getting better. Better and better every
>> release/udpate.

>
>Which is surprising to me, considering that the initial HDL support
>on MAXplus2 was the Subaru 360 of CAE
>http://www.cars101.com/subaru/360van-sideview3.jpe
>
>> even an ocean is made of single drops of water. It's
>> hard to tell when last drop falls that makes the decision scale to turn over

>
>Last year, at my local ski hill, there were 14 ski schools.
>This year, all but 5 were sent packing. Next year there
>will be only one ski school.
>

Would be a pity if only Altera was left, as a bit of competion improves quality
and lowers prices.
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Old 04-16-2006, 06:27 PM
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Hi Jacques,

i totaly agree with you.
sorry my english is too poor, i can't write all i think !...

effectively, there is a minimum order on Avnet France too ..
and they don't sell directly with a credit card ...
if i want some parts for my personnal use.. i can't now !
only digikey ...

if anybody know how create & manage a petition ...
let's go !

thank's
philippe






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[email protected] com...
Hi Philippe,

I am totally for that. Like im sure if we could get like 10,000s names,
then we would have achieve something. I was thinking about how they
took the decision of removing the online shop. Just recently, I noticed
that they added the PROM section to the online shop. This lend me to
believe that at one point, they were actually promoting and saw a
future for online shopping, but something happened that made them took
a 180 degrees U turn. I wouldnt be surprised if in late March 2006, the
big bosses of Xilinx and Avnet had lunch in one of these fancy and they
decided: Hey let's do something really bad, let's take out the online
shop. And I am pretty sure that it was instigated by Avnet.

Yesterday, I was checking out their shipping policy and the way they do
business for international customers. Avnet ask that you purchase a
minimum order of $500, if you are from outside the states or canada.
Cmon people, you would get 50 x XC3S100 for that price and this isnt
prototyping anymore. Then, when I think that Xilinx advertise on their
site, in big, brite and bold: "World´s Lowest Cost FPGAs - now
available in prototyping quanties from Avnet"... ironical isnt it,
makes me wonder where we are heading. Lets face it, we have a problem
here and we should find a solution, and quick. Now, Peter and al, you
should advise us of the possible moves that we've got in order to
replace or convice your bosses of getting back our dear online shop.

>From a previously happy canadian customer.

Jacques


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Old 04-16-2006, 07:57 PM
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"PC" <philippe.chagny**NO-SPAM**@free.fr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Hi Jacques,
>
> i totaly agree with you.
> sorry my english is too poor, i can't write all i think !...
>
> effectively, there is a minimum order on Avnet France too ..
> and they don't sell directly with a credit card ...
> if i want some parts for my personnal use.. i can't now !
> only digikey ...
>
> if anybody know how create & manage a petition ...
> let's go !
>
> thank's
> philippe


Hi Jacques&Philippe et all,

it may be surprising but the amount of responses/votes would not matter at
all.
A simple plea at c.a.f. to restore silicon devices into Xilinx online shop
would
likely receive 10 to 100 responses. However this number should actually
deserve as more reason for Xilinx for concerne than a 10,000 votes thing.
Because those missing votes are dont care, no interest, switching to
competitor, etc.

Digikey should not be considered as any choice (getting Xilinx silicon) -
Digikey
is great to occasionally check overall thumb guess component pricing and
availability.
It is ok to buy from digikey for small series, but then all components
should be
purchased for the full production span as any components that used to be
available
on Digikey may disappear anytime without notice. I had a project that was
covered
almost 100% from components available at Digikey, at the time it was ready
for
production most of those parts from the BOM where dropped by Digikey.

The matter of instant sample/proto quantity component online ordering is
VERY important, and it is long recognized by almost all vendors. Either
you can order free samples or buy small quantities online. Getting samples
for proto or evualuation fast without hassle is important. If you have to
deal with large distributor to get the sample, then you loose both time
and mental health.

National has for most products with special '24hrs' sample option
(well I guess for N.A. only but still) - they recognize that the speed
(read immediate shipment) of samples can the factor that makes the
difference.

If I can buy 10 pieces online with shipment confirmation being sent
within 24hours I can safely start a design and have pilot series all
finished within 2 weeks from the idea to final product prototypes.

If the part is not in stock by digikey and you need to start talking
to Avnet you might be still be talking to them after two weeks.
And that could be another desing loss for Xilinx. A desing loss for
a project/product that could have large yearly volumes later.

The ability to do initial evaluation-testing, pilot series quickly does
matter.

Antti

PS Xilinx is sure not the only one with issues getting parts and pricing.

While talking to Actel disti, haha the best price estimate for 1 off
PA3E (with ARM) license was 100,000 USD !!!

They refused to give any pricing, all they told me that the arm enabled
option extra price for the silicon is 1$ USD in quantities of 100.000
and that the license price is scaled down for smaller orders.
(This would come to 100,000 USD price for single qty)
Talking to other disti and Actel FAE was better, the arm enabled
(its only a security key inside the Actel silicon) adds 120USD to
the component price for quantities below 10 (and not 100,000).
So smallest PA3E with arm enabled (that it the AES key)
costs 150USD (not 20 as without that AES key).

Actel is pushing heavy on their ARM enabled FPGAs but
OTOH they really do not want any customers with less
than 100k volumes to actually use the ARM enabled silicon.

Sure this Actel case is extreme example of stupidity and Xilinx
is not getting even near to this. But if other are doing bad, doesnt
meant that Xilinx should follow and reduce their flexibility of the
component availability by removing the silicon devices from online
shop.

Xilinx is pushing towards "Make it your ASIC" that is low
cost markets, and for those well you never know when a
project that starts small grows really big. Or if an occasional
hobby user playing with Spartan3 figures out some high
volume consumer product. If that hobby user doesnt get
that spartan (becuase now way to buy it) he will also never
desing any high volume thing that is based on the Xilinx silicon.



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Old 04-16-2006, 08:46 PM
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Hi Antti,

For the small story, the 10,000 signatures petition was said because of
this:
Here in north america, we had a TV show which was cancelled for some
time (family guy) and after some lobbying from the fan base (10,000
names), it was said and is now aired again on TV. Just to tell you that
it indeed might work. On the other hand, the chances are slim as some
people at X might loose their faces... how do you think the people at
Avnet would take it, if you said something one day, did it and came
back on your words another day. It will be a hard decision for them,
the high authority at X, and I think that their decision,
unfortunately, is one which is definitive.

My point now is to work toward a practical solution with the smart guys
at Xilinx. I am just realistic and the chances to see back our dear
online shop is very small. We need now a reliable and stable, prototype
or small volume or qty, call it any name, supplier that can provide us,
anywhere in the world, with any Xilinx Spartan3 FPGA chips or at least,
the range that the Xilinx online shop use to have, and that at a
reasonable price. As this is a call, make it also for Spartan3E and
Spartan4.

When this will be done, then it will stand up for their motto: "Make it
your ASIC" or "Generation Spartan3E", but til then, these same words
say: We are people who will definitely look at our own interests
without caring for our fan base.

Cheers
Jacques

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Old 04-16-2006, 09:37 PM
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and we can suggest that they accept Paypal !..
we can dream



<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> As I was buying some components from the Xilinx online store this
> morning, I noticed that they no longer support silicon device anymore.
> It seems that it is now AVNET that is taking care of distributing
> Xilinx FPGA online. The worse thing is that the price is more
> expensive, and they do not have all the parts that Xilinx use to offer
> (the part I am looking for specially).
> Now i've got a few questions for the Xilinx people out there. Is it
> really true or if it not, then what is the updated link for your online
> section.
>
> Many thanks
> Jacques
>



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Old 04-16-2006, 09:42 PM
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maybe someone can do a complaign "letter" and everybody send it to an xilinx
customer email ..?

they must not forget that many home users, are work users ..
i do the choice at my work of wich FPGA i want use ..
( even if i know that i'm not the bigger customer ! )


regard's
philippe




"Labo.EKO" <labo.eko***nospam***@free.fr> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]
>
>
> and we can suggest that they accept Paypal !..
> we can dream
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > As I was buying some components from the Xilinx online store this
> > morning, I noticed that they no longer support silicon device anymore.
> > It seems that it is now AVNET that is taking care of distributing
> > Xilinx FPGA online. The worse thing is that the price is more
> > expensive, and they do not have all the parts that Xilinx use to offer
> > (the part I am looking for specially).
> > Now i've got a few questions for the Xilinx people out there. Is it
> > really true or if it not, then what is the updated link for your online
> > section.
> >
> > Many thanks
> > Jacques
> >

>
>



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Old 04-16-2006, 10:44 PM
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"Labo.EKO" <labo.eko***nospam***@free.fr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]
> maybe someone can do a complaign "letter" and everybody send it to an
> xilinx
> customer email ..?
>
> they must not forget that many home users, are work users ..
> i do the choice at my work of wich FPGA i want use ..
> ( even if i know that i'm not the bigger customer ! )
>
>
> regard's
> philippe
>

it would not help or do any good

Antti


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Old 04-16-2006, 11:38 PM
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Do not give up!
I'll soon find out whether I can have a bit of influence...
Peter Alfke

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