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Old 05-25-2007, 12:36 PM
Claire Murphy
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Default ML505 : beginners problems

hi,

I've just bought the ML505 and I am looking for some examples of VHDL code that I can start to play around with and edit. All I can find are ACE files, which are not that much help to me. I did find the UCF file that I need, <http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/docs/ml50x_U1_fpga.ucf> but I am wondering about the other setup parts.

I guess this ML505 board isn't really for people with 0 experience ?

regards, Claire
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:11 PM
Antti
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

On 25 Mai, 13:36, "Claire Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> hi,
>
> I've just bought the ML505 and I am looking for some examples of VHDL code that I can start to play around with and edit. All I can find are ACE files, which are not that much help to me. I did find the UCF file that I need, <http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/docs/ml50x_U1_fpga.ucf> but I am wondering about the other setup parts.
>
> I guess this ML505 board isn't really for people with 0 experience ?
>
> regards, Claire


please begin learning to finf info

just go
http://www.xilinx.com/ml505
and start from there

A






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Old 05-25-2007, 11:27 PM
Neil Steiner
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

[I would have emailed this instead of posting, but
<[email protected]> appears to be invalid.]

> I've just bought the ML505 and I am looking for some examples of VHDL
> code that I can start to play around with and edit. All I can find
> are ACE files, which are not that much help to me. I did find the UCF
> file that I need,
> <http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/docs/ml50x_U1_fpga.ucf>
> but I am wondering about the other setup parts.


From the URL that Antti provided, you can find the Reference Designs
link: http://www.xilinx.com/products/board...ce_designs.htm

The forum has been a little unforgiving of late, as a small number of
people have irritated some of the most helpful contributors. As a
result, some of the responses have been getting a little more terse ...

comp.arch.fpga actually has a bunch of people who are happy to help out
when it's clear that the person posting isn't just being lazy, and
hasn't just skipped checking google first. Don't be afraid to post in
the future, but try to make your questions specific, and try to explain
what you have already tried, so that the group takes the questions
seriously.

> I guess this ML505 board isn't really for people with 0 experience ?


Probably not people with 0 experience, but if you have some background
with hardware (and you did mention VHDL), it could be a fun place to
gain some experience. We all start somewhere.

Unfortunately I can't tell you any more about the ML505, as I myself
have not used it. Good luck.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:55 AM
Claire Murphy
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

Thanks for your responses ! I'm happy people replied.

The I have checked and read 90% of what is available on the Xilinx ML505 home page (Antti's Link). But my problem is that none of these contain test projects. They all have some precompiled code that I can't post edit (i.e. ACE files). I can only load these directly via their CF card interface.

I have contacted Xilinx to see if they can give me a test project file with some VHDL/VERILOG code in it so that I can start for there.

I want to learn about updating the FPGA with some of my own code. But first I want to have some code that I can get hands on experience with.

Is there anything like a HELLO WORLD program for FPGAs ? I know it depends on my board layout, but I do have the UCF file that has the pin assignments. But putting this together in the project is starting to confuse me.

any help would be really appreciated !

Thamks, Claire.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:30 AM
Antti
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

On 29 Mai, 10:55, "Claire Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for your responses ! I'm happy people replied.
>
> The I have checked and read 90% of what is available on the Xilinx ML505 home page (Antti's Link). But my problem is that none of these contain test projects. They all have some precompiled code that I can't post edit (i.e. ACE files). I can only load these directly via their CF card interface.


your problem is you can not find information what is made available
for you

as example
http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/pcie.htm
thrre are zip files with project verilog sources,

http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/ibert.htm
there are design files as well

http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/bsb.htm
this pages SHOULD be the most interesting, but as xilinx webmaster is
on vaccation again ?!
then this page is EMPTY ??? xilinx uhuuu, please fix this NOW

so I really do not understand how come you can not load the ZIP files
with project source code from the reference design pages for ML505???

the ML505 BSB is currently missing but there is lots of other demo
projects for ML505, just take any of them and try proceed from there?

Antti

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Old 05-29-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

Hi Claire,

http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/bsb.htm

This will create a system for you that will test many of the components on
the board.
You will need EDK in order to implement the design.
Just download the system and follow the information from the web link.

The VHDL files for more peripherals that is used in the design is available
in the EDK installation.
The fee-based cores VHDL files are encrypted but the others are
non-encrypted.
Most peripherals are not fee-based.

Göran


This will show how to create a system
"Claire Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your responses ! I'm happy people replied.
>
> The I have checked and read 90% of what is available on the Xilinx ML505
> home page (Antti's Link). But my problem is that none of these contain
> test projects. They all have some precompiled code that I can't post edit
> (i.e. ACE files). I can only load these directly via their CF card
> interface.
>
> I have contacted Xilinx to see if they can give me a test project file
> with some VHDL/VERILOG code in it so that I can start for there.
>
> I want to learn about updating the FPGA with some of my own code. But
> first I want to have some code that I can get hands on experience with.
>
> Is there anything like a HELLO WORLD program for FPGAs ? I know it depends
> on my board layout, but I do have the UCF file that has the pin
> assignments. But putting this together in the project is starting to
> confuse me.
>
> any help would be really appreciated !
>
> Thamks, Claire.



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Old 05-29-2007, 10:32 AM
Antti
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

> Is there anything like a HELLO WORLD program for FPGAs ? I know it depends on my board layout, but I do have the UCF file that has the pin assignments. But putting this together in the project is starting to confuse me.
>
> any help would be really appreciated !
>
> Thamks, Claire.


hello world (VHDL)

LED <= '1';

///

NET LED = "xxx"; # please lookup ucf or manual


are you looking for this?

Antti









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Old 05-29-2007, 11:03 AM
Antti
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

On 29 Mai, 11:31, "Göran Bilski" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Claire,
>
> http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/bsb.htm
>
> This will create a system for you that will test many of the components on
> the board.


Hi Goran

that was quick - just a few minutes ago that URL opened an empty
page !!!
but now the EDK design is already there, nice

Antti







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Old 05-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Claire Murphy
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

Thanks for everyone's help. You've pointed me in the right direction. I need to get my hands on EDK then it seems.

btw. Goran <http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/bsb.htm> in FireFox gives me errors !

Thanks Goran & Antti
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:01 PM
Eric Crabill
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

Hello,

If you are looking for a plain RTL logic "hello world" design for an FPGA
(in Verilog) please see:

http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/~crabill

This is based on the Spartan-3E Starter Kit but can be easily adpated to any
other board you have.
Eric

"Antti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Is there anything like a HELLO WORLD program for FPGAs ? I know it
>> depends on my board layout, but I do have the UCF file that has the pin
>> assignments. But putting this together in the project is starting to
>> confuse me.
>>
>> any help would be really appreciated !
>>
>> Thamks, Claire.

>
> hello world (VHDL)
>
> LED <= '1';
>
> ///
>
> NET LED = "xxx"; # please lookup ucf or manual
>
>
> are you looking for this?
>
> Antti
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>



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Old 05-30-2007, 10:11 AM
Claire Murphy
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

Thanks for that Eric !

Anyone know if there is a list of what Xilinx chips work with what versions of ISE ? I am becoming more and more frustrated with www.xilinx.com , now I find myself using google and site search to find things I need.

Anyway, I would like to find out if I can use the LX50T with the free 9.1 version or the 8.x version.

Also downloading a package of 1.5GB and the same size again for an update it pretty annoying !

Thanks ! claire
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:29 AM
Antti
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On 30 Mai, 11:11, "Claire Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for that Eric !
>
> Anyone know if there is a list of what Xilinx chips work with what versions of ISE ? I am becoming more and more frustrated withwww.xilinx.com, now I find myself using google and site search to find things I need.
>
> Anyway, I would like to find out if I can use the LX50T with the free 9.1 version or the 8.x version.
>
> Also downloading a package of 1.5GB and the same size again for an update it pretty annoying !
>
> Thanks ! claire


no you can not use free tools.
so your initial investment to use ML505 is

3200 USD (ISE+ED)

Antti



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Old 05-30-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

Thanks for the tip Antti.

I thought the webpack works with some Virtex5's <http://www.xilinx.com/ise/logic_design_prod/webpack.htm>

So I guess I am out of luck, and I will need to shell out a few more $$'s

Antti you have been a great help !
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:48 PM
Eric Crabill
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Default Re: ML505 : beginners problems

Hi Claire,

The information you are looking for is at:

http://www.xilinx.com/ise/products/webpack_config.htm

The link is on the WebPack page, but not obvious that it would reveal the
supported devices...
Eric

"Antti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 30 Mai, 11:11, "Claire Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks for that Eric !
>>
>> Anyone know if there is a list of what Xilinx chips work with what
>> versions of ISE ? I am becoming more and more frustrated
>> withwww.xilinx.com, now I find myself using google and site search to
>> find things I need.
>>
>> Anyway, I would like to find out if I can use the LX50T with the free 9.1
>> version or the 8.x version.
>>
>> Also downloading a package of 1.5GB and the same size again for an update
>> it pretty annoying !
>>
>> Thanks ! claire

>
> no you can not use free tools.
> so your initial investment to use ML505 is
>
> 3200 USD (ISE+ED)
>
> Antti



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