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Old 02-19-2008, 01:25 PM
Narendra Sisodiya
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Default Which Linux Distro to use for Xilinx tools

Hi,
I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
things,
Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:11 PM
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On Feb 19, 8:25 am, Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> things,
> Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???


I believe Sysgen is Windows only. So, I don't think there is any way
to satisfy your requirement.

If this is incorrect, that would be fantastic news to me, as Sysgen is
one of the few things still tying me to Windows.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Which Linux Distro to use for Xilinx tools

On Feb 19, 9:11 am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Feb 19, 8:25 am, Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> > toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> > May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> > redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> > components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> > I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> > things,
> > Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???


I use OpenSUSE 10.3/10.2 at work and have used all of the Xilinx tools
successfully under it. For my cable drivers, I use the open-source
drivers available at:http://rmdir.de/~michael/xilinx/. I currently
have a patch for the driver that allows for a parallel cable to be
used by both ChipScope and XMD at the same time. I'm still working on
the USB version. I'm also working on an ECP patch for the driver to
get the parallel cable running at higher speeds. Four minutes is way
too long to wait for an image to program.

I have run into a couple of problems with some of the older tools like
fpga editor, pace, and floorplanner. To run these, I had to run them
using "env DISPLAY=:0 <executable>" otherwise they would complain that
they couldn't find X server.

Now, I would NOT recommend OpenSUSE. I personally love Ubuntu and have
read posts in the Ubuntu forums about people using the same tools
under that distro with no problems. I have to use OpenSUSE because of
restrictions at work.

Also, Xilinx has, on more than one occasion, told me to use Linux for
the development because their tools 'work better' under Linux than
windows.

> I believe Sysgen is Windows only. So, I don't think there is any way
> to satisfy your requirement.
>
> If this is incorrect, that would be fantastic news to me, as Sysgen is
> one of the few things still tying me to Windows.


I don't know about sysgen, since I don't use it.

-- Mike
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Old 02-19-2008, 03:41 PM
Narendra Sisodiya
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On Feb 19, 7:33 pm, morphiend <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 9:11 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On Feb 19, 8:25 am, Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]>
> > wrote:

>
> > > Hi,
> > > I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> > > toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> > > May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> > > redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> > > components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> > > I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> > > things,
> > > Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???

>
> I use OpenSUSE 10.3/10.2 at work and have used all of the Xilinx tools
> successfully under it. For my cable drivers, I use the open-source
> drivers available at:http://rmdir.de/~michael/xilinx/. I currently
> have a patch for the driver that allows for a parallel cable to be
> used by both ChipScope and XMD at the same time. I'm still working on
> the USB version. I'm also working on an ECP patch for the driver to
> get the parallel cable running at higher speeds. Four minutes is way
> too long to wait for an image to program.
>
> I have run into a couple of problems with some of the older tools like
> fpga editor, pace, and floorplanner. To run these, I had to run them
> using "env DISPLAY=:0 <executable>" otherwise they would complain that
> they couldn't find X server.
>
> Now, I would NOT recommend OpenSUSE. I personally love Ubuntu and have
> read posts in the Ubuntu forums about people using the same tools
> under that distro with no problems. I have to use OpenSUSE because of
> restrictions at work.
>
> Also, Xilinx has, on more than one occasion, told me to use Linux for
> the development because their tools 'work better' under Linux than
> windows.
>
> > I believe Sysgen is Windows only. So, I don't think there is any way
> > to satisfy your requirement.

>
> > If this is incorrect, that would be fantastic news to me, as Sysgen is
> > one of the few things still tying me to Windows.

>
> I don't know about sysgen, since I don't use it.
>
> -- Mike


Thanks a lot Mike,
If, Ubuntu works good for Xilinx, should i go with Debian ,
otherwise , i can go with SUSE also....
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:49 PM
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Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
>toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
>May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
>redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
>components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
>I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
>things,
>Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???


You can use www.FreeBSD.org ,any software that is stuck with ms-win can be
handled with www.WineHQ.org ,or be run under vmware or qemu.
Freebsd also use libusb asfair.

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Old 02-19-2008, 08:17 PM
Narendra Sisodiya
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Default Re: Which Linux Distro to use for Xilinx tools

On Feb 19, 10:49 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> >toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> >May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> >redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> >components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> >I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> >things,
> >Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???

>
> You can usewww.FreeBSD.org,any software that is stuck with ms-win can be
> handled withwww.WineHQ.org,or be run under vmware or qemu.
> Freebsd also use libusb asfair.


Using Vmware,, or any virtualization technique to install windows on
top of Linux is not a good solution,, --as it will take a hell lot of
time of compile,,,
I have already tried,,wine,, but i does not work perfectly,, i will
not suggest wine or vmware,,or quem in context of xilinx tools,
I will try with Debian,
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:30 PM
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Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Feb 19, 10:49 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
>> >toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
>> >May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
>> >redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
>> >components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
>> >I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
>> >things,
>> >Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???

>>
>> You can usewww.FreeBSD.org,any software that is stuck with ms-win can be
>> handled withwww.WineHQ.org,or be run under vmware or qemu.
>> Freebsd also use libusb asfair.


>Using Vmware,, or any virtualization technique to install windows on
>top of Linux is not a good solution,, --as it will take a hell lot of
>time of compile,,,
>I have already tried,,wine,, but i does not work perfectly,, i will
>not suggest wine or vmware,,or quem in context of xilinx tools,
>I will try with Debian,


The newer virtualization technqiues like Xen etc.. runs at near native
execution speed. It's not perfect, but it can solve the task.
Another approach is a dedicated ms-win box wich is remote controlled via
VNC or RDP.
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Old 02-19-2008, 11:04 PM
Tom Curran
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Default Re: Which Linux Distro to use for Xilinx tools

"Narendra Sisodiya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]:

> Hi,
> I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> things,
> Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???



I have had reasonable success with the ISE and EDK 9.x tools installed
on Fedora and CentOS. I have also very briefly tried Kubuntu 7.? and
OpenSuse 10.2. I gave up on OpenSuse due to time constraints. I would
avoid using the tools in a virtual environment (VMware, etc.) if you
also need to use the parallel or USB programming cable. It is a known
issue, for VMware at least, that the Xilinx USB programmer does not work
reliably with the Xilinx drivers installed within a virtual machine.
This is true for both the Xilinx supplied proprietary driver (IF you can
manage to even get it to install!) and the open-source user-space driver
mentioned previously.

--Tom

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Old 02-19-2008, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Which Linux Distro to use for Xilinx tools

Hi Narenda,

Narendra Sisodiya wrote:

> I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> things,
> Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???


I use CentOS exclusively - www.centos.org. It is a source-level, free
rebuild/clone of RHEL, which is Xilinx's official supported Linux
distro. This means that all of Xilinx's advice re: Linux usage,
applies, without actually purchasing RHEL.

I am using both CentOS 4 and CentOS 5. A few workarounds required with
CentOS 5 (as would be required with RHEL 5 as well), to get the Xilinx
tools running happily under SELinux. But, the Xilinx cable drivers, and
everything else I've used so far, all work nicely.

Regards,

John
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:48 AM
Narendra Sisodiya
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On Feb 20, 1:30 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Feb 19, 10:49 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >> Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >Hi,
> >> >I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> >> >toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> >> >May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> >> >redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> >> >components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> >> >I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> >> >things,
> >> >Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???

>
> >> You can usewww.FreeBSD.org,anysoftware that is stuck with ms-win can be
> >> handled withwww.WineHQ.org,orbe run under vmware or qemu.
> >> Freebsd also use libusb asfair.

> >Using Vmware,, or any virtualization technique to install windows on
> >top of Linux is not a good solution,, --as it will take a hell lot of
> >time of compile,,,
> >I have already tried,,wine,, but i does not work perfectly,, i will
> >not suggest wine or vmware,,or quem in context of xilinx tools,
> >I will try with Debian,

>
> The newer virtualization technqiues like Xen etc.. runs at near native
> execution speed. It's not perfect, but it can solve the task.
> Another approach is a dedicated ms-win box wich is remote controlled via
> VNC or RDP.


Thanks but again I will not support RDP . Matlab and some software
will not start via this type of remote login,
infact i do not want to use Xen also because I do not want WinXP at
all. I will try centos, as I am Fedora user, so Centos will be a
similar one to me.
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:50 AM
Narendra Sisodiya
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On Feb 20, 4:56 am, John Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Narenda,
>
> Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
> > I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
> > toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
> > May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> > redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> > components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> > I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
> > things,
> > Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???

>
> I use CentOS exclusively -www.centos.org. It is a source-level, free
> rebuild/clone of RHEL, which is Xilinx's official supported Linux
> distro. This means that all of Xilinx's advice re: Linux usage,
> applies, without actually purchasing RHEL.
>
> I am using both CentOS 4 and CentOS 5. A few workarounds required with
> CentOS 5 (as would be required with RHEL 5 as well), to get the Xilinx
> tools running happily under SELinux. But, the Xilinx cable drivers, and
> everything else I've used so far, all work nicely.
>
> Regards,
>
> John


Thanks Everybody,
I will try first with Centos and then Debian
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:59 PM
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Hi Narendra Sisodiya, everyone,

Narendra Sisodiya wrote:

> May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
> Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???


For me, things work nearly out of the box on Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon, which
I'm running on my (dual boot) MacBookPro - FPGA design is the only
reason for having a second OS on that machine. I haven't tried EDK,
Sysgen or Chipscope though, and I use Octave instead of Matlab. The nice
thing about Ubuntu is that the Xilinx simulator works (in Suse it only
creates error messages).

Installing Ubuntu on a second partition was very easy thanks to
Bootcamp, rEFIt and some other nifty tools. I set aside 5GB for my
Linux/Xilinx partition. Imagine my surprise when, after installing the
WebPack, I ran out of space already doing the webupdate...

Regards, Paul Boven.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:48 PM
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Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]> writes:
> May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
> redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
> components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).


Try Centos 4, which is equivalent to RHEL 4.
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:41 AM
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Hi !

You can have a see to CentOS distro.
This is a recompiled RedHat without modifying sources (so not like Fedora).
I am using it in a production environment. It is a very powerfull, fast
distro and very stable and reliable. But this is jst a working environment,
no compiz or something else ....
All softwares and also all drivers are running just fine.

http://www.centos.org/

Xilinx is uning it on its AN.

Else you can use Ubuntu, wich have the best community support I've ever
seen. You will find many websites describing how to install Xilinx tools and
drivers.

Best regards.

<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
7b729098-8f05-4d90-bf81-8717d9b4a56d...oglegroups.com...
> On Feb 19, 8:25 am, Narendra Sisodiya <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I Love Linux, but currently i have to boot in XP because of xilinx
>> toolset (ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc)
>> May any body tell me , Any Linux Distro (other then commercial , like
>> redhat, i cann't buy) which will work perfectly with all
>> components(ISE, EDK, sysgen Matlab, chipscope etc).
>> I am using Fedora 7 and face problem with cable drivers and many such
>> things,
>> Is any body working perfectly with this any Linux Distro, ???

>
> I believe Sysgen is Windows only. So, I don't think there is any way
> to satisfy your requirement.
>
> If this is incorrect, that would be fantastic news to me, as Sysgen is
> one of the few things still tying me to Windows.



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Old 02-27-2008, 02:00 AM
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Jean-sébastien LEROY wrote:

> You can have a see to CentOS distro.
> This is a recompiled RedHat without modifying sources (so not like Fedora).
> I am using it in a production environment. It is a very powerfull, fast
> distro and very stable and reliable. But this is jst a working environment,
> no compiz or something else ....


There is a YUM repo with Beryl RPMs for CentOS 5 - so I have a very
powerful workstation and visual bling in one machine

I must take a minute to rave about my new setup - Dell OptiPlex 755
Core2-Duo @ 3GHz with 4GB RAM, 2x150GB 7200 RPM SATA drives in RAID 1
configuration, CentOS 5, dual widescreen 22" LCD panels all for about
AU$2500. Hard to argue with that. Xilinx tool performance is great,
and I can do a clean MicroBlaze Linux software platform rebuild in under
5 minutes - kernel, apps, libs, everything. And Beryl/Compiz for
desktop eye candy - life is good.

John
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