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Old 04-09-2005, 07:42 AM
Rudolf Usselmann
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Default ise 7.1 sp1 BEWARE !



Just a short note of caution ....

After installing sp1 for ise 7.1 (linux) mapper is crashing:

map -p xc4vlx25-sf363-10 -timing -register_duplication -pr b -o
usb_top_map.ncd usb_top.ngd usb_top.pcf
Release 7.1.01i - Map H.39
Copyright (c) 1995-2005 Xilinx, Inc. All rights reserved.
Using target part "4vlx25sf363-10".
Mapping design into LUTs...
Writing file usb_top_map.ngm...
Running directed packing...
Running delay-based LUT packing...
Running timing-driven packing...

Phase 1.1
Phase 1.1 (Checksum:9e05bf) REAL time: 8 secs

<SNIP>

Phase 14.5
Phase 14.5 (Checksum:8583af2) REAL time: 5 mins 23 secs

Invoking physical synthesis ...
Abort (core dumped)

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rudi
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:11 PM
Bret Wade
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Default Re: ise 7.1 sp1 BEWARE !

Rudolf Usselmann wrote:
>
> Just a short note of caution ....
>
> After installing sp1 for ise 7.1 (linux) mapper is crashing:
>
> map -p xc4vlx25-sf363-10 -timing -register_duplication -pr b -o
> usb_top_map.ncd usb_top.ngd usb_top.pcf
> Release 7.1.01i - Map H.39
> Copyright (c) 1995-2005 Xilinx, Inc. All rights reserved.
> Using target part "4vlx25sf363-10".
> Mapping design into LUTs...
> Writing file usb_top_map.ngm...
> Running directed packing...
> Running delay-based LUT packing...
> Running timing-driven packing...
>
> Phase 1.1
> Phase 1.1 (Checksum:9e05bf) REAL time: 8 secs
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Phase 14.5
> Phase 14.5 (Checksum:8583af2) REAL time: 5 mins 23 secs
>
> Invoking physical synthesis ...
> Abort (core dumped)
>
> Regards,
> rudi
> ================================================== ===========
> Rudolf Usselmann, ASICS World Services, http://www.asics.ws
> Your Partner for IP Cores, Design, Verification and Synthesis
>
>


This problem can be avoided if you turn off that new
"-register_duplication" feature.

Bret
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:22 PM
Antti Lukats
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Default Re: ise 7.1 sp1 BEWARE !

"Bret Wade" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
> Rudolf Usselmann wrote:
> >
> > Just a short note of caution ....
> >
> > After installing sp1 for ise 7.1 (linux) mapper is crashing:
> >
> > map -p xc4vlx25-sf363-10 -timing -register_duplication -pr b -o
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > Phase 14.5
> > Phase 14.5 (Checksum:8583af2) REAL time: 5 mins 23 secs
> >
> > Invoking physical synthesis ...
> > Abort (core dumped)
> >
> > Regards,
> > rudi
> > ================================================== ===========
> > Rudolf Usselmann, ASICS World Services, http://www.asics.ws
> > Your Partner for IP Cores, Design, Verification and Synthesis
> >
> >

>
> This problem can be avoided if you turn off that new
> "-register_duplication" feature.
>
> Bret


a nice "feature" !!
you should call thise feature "force core dump" then people would know to
avoid it, and not spend hours of frustration!

antti


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Old 04-10-2005, 05:28 AM
Rudolf Usselmann
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Default Re: ise 7.1 sp1 BEWARE !

Bret Wade wrote:

> Rudolf Usselmann wrote:
>>
>> Just a short note of caution ....
>>
>> After installing sp1 for ise 7.1 (linux) mapper is crashing:
>>
>> map -p xc4vlx25-sf363-10 -timing -register_duplication -pr b -o
>> usb_top_map.ncd usb_top.ngd usb_top.pcf
>> Release 7.1.01i - Map H.39
>> Copyright (c) 1995-2005 Xilinx, Inc. All rights reserved.
>> Using target part "4vlx25sf363-10".
>> Mapping design into LUTs...
>> Writing file usb_top_map.ngm...
>> Running directed packing...
>> Running delay-based LUT packing...
>> Running timing-driven packing...
>>
>> Phase 1.1
>> Phase 1.1 (Checksum:9e05bf) REAL time: 8 secs
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> Phase 14.5
>> Phase 14.5 (Checksum:8583af2) REAL time: 5 mins 23 secs
>>
>> Invoking physical synthesis ...
>> Abort (core dumped)
>>
>> Regards,
>> rudi
>> ================================================== ===========
>> Rudolf Usselmann, ASICS World Services, http://www.asics.ws
>> Your Partner for IP Cores, Design, Verification and Synthesis
>>
>>

>
> This problem can be avoided if you turn off that new
> "-register_duplication" feature.
>
> Bret


Bret,

Before sp1, "-register_duplication" helped me meet timing when
IO buffer registers needed to be duplicated.
Do you know of another work around ?

Thanks,
rudi
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Rudolf Usselmann, ASICS World Services, http://www.asics.ws
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Old 04-10-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: ise 7.1 sp1 BEWARE !

Rudolf Usselmann wrote:
> Bret Wade wrote:
>
>
>>Rudolf Usselmann wrote:
>>
>>>Just a short note of caution ....
>>>
>>>After installing sp1 for ise 7.1 (linux) mapper is crashing:
>>>
>>>map -p xc4vlx25-sf363-10 -timing -register_duplication -pr b -o
>>>usb_top_map.ncd usb_top.ngd usb_top.pcf
>>>Release 7.1.01i - Map H.39
>>>Copyright (c) 1995-2005 Xilinx, Inc. All rights reserved.
>>>Using target part "4vlx25sf363-10".
>>>Mapping design into LUTs...
>>>Writing file usb_top_map.ngm...
>>>Running directed packing...
>>>Running delay-based LUT packing...
>>>Running timing-driven packing...
>>>
>>>Phase 1.1
>>>Phase 1.1 (Checksum:9e05bf) REAL time: 8 secs
>>>
>>><SNIP>
>>>
>>>Phase 14.5
>>>Phase 14.5 (Checksum:8583af2) REAL time: 5 mins 23 secs
>>>
>>>Invoking physical synthesis ...
>>>Abort (core dumped)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>rudi
>>>=============================================== ==============
>>>Rudolf Usselmann, ASICS World Services, http://www.asics.ws
>>>Your Partner for IP Cores, Design, Verification and Synthesis
>>>
>>>

>>
>>This problem can be avoided if you turn off that new
>>"-register_duplication" feature.
>>
>>Bret

>
>
> Bret,
>
> Before sp1, "-register_duplication" helped me meet timing when
> IO buffer registers needed to be duplicated.
> Do you know of another work around ?
>
> Thanks,
> rudi


Hi Rudi,

We've seen one similar case and that was a Windows only failure. If you
have access to a Linux or Solaris machine, that might work. On the other
hand, that case wasn't an SP1 regression like yours is, so they may be
different problems. If that doesn't work, a webcase would be the next
suggestion.

Regards,
Bret
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Old 04-13-2005, 08:29 AM
Rudolf Usselmann
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Default Re: ise 7.1 sp1 BEWARE !

Bret Wade wrote:
> Hi Rudi,
>
> We've seen one similar case and that was a Windows only failure. If you
> have access to a Linux or Solaris machine, that might work. On the other
> hand, that case wasn't an SP1 regression like yours is, so they may be
> different problems. If that doesn't work, a webcase would be the next
> suggestion.
>
> Regards,
> Bret


Bret,

the reported problem occurred on a Linux system. We only use
a windows notebook for downloading of bit streams and ChipScope,
otherwise only Linux.

Best Regards,
rudi
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