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Old 04-08-2006, 11:07 AM
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Having seen way too much spam on this newsgroup lately, I have come
with a possible solution that just might work.

Add a section to FPGA FAQ where the known names on the newsgroup will
list the companies they recommend (plus some explanation). Next time
someone spams the list about "high quality PCB", or what the hell it
is, we post a polite response saying that no one should support spammer
companies and we suggest you choose another manufacture from the list
below (link to FPGA-FAQ follows).Given that spammers only care about
money, seeing they are loosing customers might stop them from spamming
the list.

This way, you will also support the local companies that you think are
doing a good job


We could also add another section about newsgroup netiquette, 3leet
English and what we think about doing other peoples homework. This is
of course not as big problem as spammer, but it is still a little bit
annoying sometimes.


Furthermore, someone should contact Google, notifying them about the
existence of a group FAQ. I think the biggest problem with the FAQ is
that the ones that dont know about it are the ones that really need to
read it


regards
- Bruns

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Old 04-10-2006, 06:40 AM
Jeremy Stringer
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[email protected] wrote:
> Having seen way too much spam on this newsgroup lately, I have come
> with a possible solution that just might work.
>
> Add a section to FPGA FAQ where the known names on the newsgroup will
> list the companies they recommend (plus some explanation). Next time
> someone spams the list about "high quality PCB", or what the hell it
> is, we post a polite response saying that no one should support spammer
> companies and we suggest you choose another manufacture from the list
> below (link to FPGA-FAQ follows).Given that spammers only care about
> money, seeing they are loosing customers might stop them from spamming
> the list.


You're assuming that they actually read any responses Still, not a
bad plan.

Jeremy
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: FPGA FAQ and the spam problem

In article <[email protected] .com>,
[email protected] wrote:

> Having seen way too much spam on this newsgroup lately, I have come
> with a possible solution that just might work.
>
> Add a section to FPGA FAQ where the known names on the newsgroup will
> list the companies they recommend (plus some explanation). Next time
> someone spams the list about "high quality PCB", or what the hell it
> is, we post a polite response saying that no one should support spammer
> companies and we suggest you choose another manufacture from the list
> below (link to FPGA-FAQ follows).Given that spammers only care about
> money, seeing they are loosing customers might stop them from spamming
> the list.
>
> This way, you will also support the local companies that you think are
> doing a good job
>
>
> We could also add another section about newsgroup netiquette, 3leet
> English and what we think about doing other peoples homework. This is
> of course not as big problem as spammer, but it is still a little bit
> annoying sometimes.
>
>
> Furthermore, someone should contact Google, notifying them about the
> existence of a group FAQ. I think the biggest problem with the FAQ is
> that the ones that dont know about it are the ones that really need to
> read it
>
>
> regards
> - Bruns


Considering they dont read responses, and often its via a 'bot' anyway,
i dont think it will help..

Though supporting good companies is always a good thing to do.
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:47 AM
Philip Freidin
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On 8 Apr 2006 02:07:39 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Having seen way too much spam on this newsgroup lately, I have come
>with a possible solution that just might work.


The people that spam our news group do not read this news group.

>Add a section to FPGA FAQ where the known names on the newsgroup will
>list the companies they recommend (plus some explanation). Next time
>someone spams the list about "high quality PCB", or what the hell it
>is, we post a polite response saying that no one should support spammer
>companies and we suggest you choose another manufacture from the list
>below (link to FPGA-FAQ follows). Given that spammers only care about
>money, seeing they are loosing customers might stop them from spamming
>the list.


And they certainly don't read the FPGA FAQ at www.fpga-faq.org

>This way, you will also support the local companies that you think are
>doing a good job
>
>We could also add another section about newsgroup netiquette, 3leet
>English and what we think about doing other peoples homework. This is
>of course not as big problem as spammer, but it is still a little bit
>annoying sometimes.


People with poor net hygiene don't read FAQ's either.

>Furthermore, someone should contact Google, notifying them about the
>existence of a group FAQ. I think the biggest problem with the FAQ is
>that the ones that dont know about it are the ones that really need to
>read it


Actually I think the real problem with the FAQ is the poor coverage
of Frequently Asked Questions. The content of the FAQ web site can be
roughly broken down into 3 pieces:

The archive of the news group (about 88.1% of all visitors, 13 GB/month)
The list of FPGA boards (about 10.4% of all visitors, 1.2 GB/month)
The FAQ questions and answers (about 0.5% of all visitors, not worth measuring)

The FAQ section has been open to anyone to write up articles that they
feel would enhance this area. There have been very few participants.

Writing good articles takes time and most of us have schedule pressures
that means that as soon as we get a resolution to a problem, we move on
to the next issue. Taking time to write it up for the FAQ is not on anyone's
radar.

Fortunately, we have the news group, which though it does not
present condensed answers to FA questions, there are enough keywords, and
high quality search engines, so that the collected wisdom can be re-used.

About 34 mainstream search engines crawl the archive per month (and generate
about 1/2 the total bandwidth), and so questions that have enough key words
often get you into the archive pretty close to a discussion on your topic.

This leads to about 3500 to 4500 visitors a day.

Anyone who would like to contribute to the FAQ section is VERY welcome,
email me with your topics!

>regards
> - Bruns



Philip Freidin


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Old 04-12-2006, 09:07 PM
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I think you have totally missed the point. posting a link to the FAQ in
answer to questions is (1) smarter if the same question pops every now
and then (2) makes it show up less often in future (3) can give a more
comprehensive answer (4) makes more people aware of the FAQ.
It works like this in many other groups, and it works rather nice for
Mike Treseler in this newsgroup too


about the spam part, well... if you start posting things that hurts
their business, believe me they gonna notice.

and even if they dont, it is still better to have a list of good
suppliers at hand




> People with poor net hygiene don't read FAQ's either.


Saying that was very stupid of you.




Back to the subject. In either case, it is always nice if people
contribute and try to extend the FAQ.

Bruns

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Old 04-12-2006, 09:15 PM
Bob Perlman
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On 12 Apr 2006 12:07:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:


>> People with poor net hygiene don't read FAQ's either.

>
>Saying that was very stupid of you.


Nice. You've managed to insult a person who's not only maintained a
high-quality FAQ, but who's spent considerable time posting valuable
information to this newsgroup.

Stop worrying about newsgroup spam; I think you need to get your own
house in order first.

Bob Perlman
Cambrian Design Works
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Old 04-13-2006, 06:10 AM
Mike Treseler
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[email protected] wrote:

> Having seen way too much spam on this newsgroup lately, I have come
> with a possible solution that just might work.


If you think it is worth your time to flame
a spammer, please do it on his turf, not in the newsgroups.
This thread is already close to the recent spam postings in bandwidth.

> Add a section to FPGA FAQ where the known names on the newsgroup will
> list the companies they recommend (plus some explanation). Next time
> someone spams the list about "high quality PCB", or what the hell it
> is, we post a polite response saying that no one should support spammer


I appreciate your intent, but this is as off-topic as the spam.

> We could also add another section about newsgroup netiquette, 3leet
> English and what we think about doing other peoples homework. This is
> of course not as big problem as spammer, but it is still a little bit
> annoying sometimes.


The target group for your advice does not read
this newsgroup regularly. Those of us who do read,
may post a pointer for interesting on-topic faqs
but ignore the rest without judgment.

-- Mike Treseler
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