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Old 02-03-2010, 09:33 PM
Marc Humphreys
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Default [SI-LIST] Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help

Wow Todd! I'm impressed at your quick work. I've never see a company issue
a press release in response to a posting on the SI-LIST . Hope the show
is going well for you guys.
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From: "Todd Westerhoff" <twesterh (AT) sisoft (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:09 PM
To: "si-list (AT) freelists (DOT) org" <si-list (AT) freelists (DOT) org>
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help

Eric,

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "out of the box", but I can tell you
that SiSoft's Quantum Channel Designer (QCD) has provided native support
for IBIS-AMI models since its introduction at DesignCon 2008. QCD uses
IBIS-AMI models to support both Statistical and Time-Domain simulations,
producing Statistical/Persistent eyes, bathtub curves, BER predictions and
many other outputs.

We have actively driven the AMI standard since late 2006, publishing the
first AMI reference models, performance data and correlation results. We
provided the first test bench simulator (a free download) to ensure
algorithmic models comply with the standard. If you happen to be at
DesignCon, we are presenting a paper on IBIS-AMI model correlation at 9AM
tomorrow morning.

There are a number of IBIS-AMI design kits currently available from
multiple vendors, including validated IBIS-AMI models that run in QCD "out
of the box". You can find more information about these kits at:

http://www.sisoft.com/news_10c.asp

Todd.

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Todd Westerhoff
VP, Software Products
SiSoft
6 Clock Tower Place, Suite 250
Maynard, MA 01754
(978) 461-0449 x24
twesterh (AT) sisoft (DOT) com
www.sisoft.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Monteiro"
To: si-list (AT) freelists (DOT) org
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:00:01 AM
Subject: [SI-LIST] IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help

Hello
I have been looking at channel designers from Mentor, Cadence, SiSoft, and
Sigrity that claim to support AMI models. However, to date I have only seen
Sigrity's channel designer support AMI models "out of the box", and can
generate the BER curves, and statistical eye's.

In the case of Mentor, it looks like they only have special support for the
Xilinx models embedded within the kit (? is this correrct ?). I assume this
means Mentor does not yet have a tool where you can take any vendors AMI
model and just drop into a schematic unless you work with them to develop a
kit similar to Xilinx.

Does anyone know if/how Mentor (Hyperlynx GHz), Cadence (Signal Explorer),
and SiSoft (Quantum Channel Designer) support out of the box AMI models?

Best Regards,

Eric

Gennum Corporation AMS Division
4281 Harvester Road
Burlington, Ontario L7L-5M4
Canada

Phone: 905-632-2999 x 4260

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Old 02-03-2010, 11:01 PM
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Marc,
The press release we issued today has been in the plans for weeks.

Todd.


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Maynard, MA. 01754
(978) 461-0449 x24
twesterh (AT) sisoft (DOT) com
www.sisoft.com


On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:33 PM, "Marc Humphreys" <mhumphreys (AT) logiclinkdesign (DOT) .com
> wrote:


> Wow Todd! I'm impressed at your quick work. I've never see a company
> issue a press release in response to a posting on the SI-LIST .
> Hope the show is going well for you guys.
>
>
>
> From: "Todd Westerhoff" <twesterh (AT) sisoft (DOT) com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:09 PM
> To: "si-list (AT) freelists (DOT) org" <si-list (AT) freelists (DOT) org>
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help
>
> Eric,
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "out of the box", but I can
> tell you that SiSoft's Quantum Channel Designer (QCD) has provided
> native support for IBIS-AMI models since its introduction at
> DesignCon 2008. QCD uses IBIS-AMI models to support both Statistical
> and Time-Domain simulations, producing Statistical/Persistent eyes,
> bathtub curves, BER predictions and many other outputs.
>
> We have actively driven the AMI standard since late 2006, publishing
> the first AMI reference models, performance data and correlation
> results. We provided the first test bench simulator (a free
> download) to ensure algorithmic models comply with the standard. If
> you happen to be at DesignCon, we are presenting a paper on IBIS-AMI
> model correlation at 9AM tomorrow morning.
>
> There are a number of IBIS-AMI design kits currently available from
> multiple vendors, including validated IBIS-AMI models that run in
> QCD "out of the box". You can find more information about these kits
> at:
>
> http://www.sisoft.com/news_10c.asp
>
> Todd.
>
> --
>
> Todd Westerhoff
> VP, Software Products
> SiSoft
> 6 Clock Tower Place, Suite 250
> Maynard, MA 01754
> (978) 461-0449 x24
> twesterh (AT) sisoft (DOT) com
> www.sisoft.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Monteiro"
> To: si-list (AT) freelists (DOT) org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:00:01 AM
> Subject: [SI-LIST] IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help
>
> Hello
> I have been looking at channel designers from Mentor, Cadence,
> SiSoft, and Sigrity that claim to support AMI models. However, to
> date I have only seen Sigrity's channel designer support AMI models
> "out of the box", and can generate the BER curves, and statistical
> eye's.
>
> In the case of Mentor, it looks like they only have special support
> for the Xilinx models embedded within the kit (? is this
> correrct ?). I assume this means Mentor does not yet have a tool
> where you can take any vendors AMI model and just drop into a
> schematic unless you work with them to develop a kit similar to
> Xilinx.
>
> Does anyone know if/how Mentor (Hyperlynx GHz), Cadence (Signal
> Explorer), and SiSoft (Quantum Channel Designer) support out of the
> box AMI models?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Eric
>
> Gennum Corporation AMS Division
> 4281 Harvester Road
> Burlington, Ontario L7L-5M4
> Canada
>
> Phone: 905-632-2999 x 4260
>
>
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:23 PM
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Hi Marc,

Here's the link to the requested timeline w.r.t. IBIS AMI support in ADS:

http://www.agilent.com/about/newsroo...b-em10018.html

hth

-- Colin Warwick
Signal Integrity Product Manager
Blog: http://signal-integrity.tm.agilent.com


-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce (AT) freelists (DOT) org [mailto:si-list-bounce (AT) freelists (DOT) org] On Behalf Of Marc Humphreys
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:03 PM
To: Eric Monteiro; si-list (AT) freelists (DOT) org
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help

Eric,
..
..
(snip)
..
..
If that's not the current state of the market it would be great if the
tools/silicon vendors can list their vendors with available AMI libraries -
or otherwise timetable

Marc

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