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Old 05-12-2004, 12:11 PM
Iwo Mergler
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Default Compact Flash FPGA card

Hi all,

I'm looking for a CF FPGA prototyping card. Do you know
of such a beast?

The closest I could find so far is the Wildcard, combined
with a CF to PCMCIA adapter.

http://www.annapmicro.com/wildcard2.html
http://www.elandigitalsystems.com/ac...ies/cf2pce.php

Kind regards,

Iwo
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Old 05-13-2004, 03:36 AM
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Hi Iwo,

Iwo Mergler wrote:

> I'm looking for a CF FPGA prototyping card. Do you know
> of such a beast?
>
> The closest I could find so far is the Wildcard, combined
> with a CF to PCMCIA adapter.


I don't know of any other cards, but some second hand comments about the
Wildcard:

Someone I spoke to recently was complaining bitterly that the WildCard's
communication interface between the FPGA and the PCMCIA bus is extremely
narrow and slow, basically he was forced to do single-byte programmed
reads/writes across that interface. Yuck.

So, it seems to make the idea of using the Wildcard as a computational
accelerator/coprocessor pretty useless - you just re-invent the
bus-bound architecture...

It may just be a problem with the host drivers, rather than the WildCard
architecture itself, I'm not sure. If anyone from Annapolis is reading
this it would be interesting to get clarification.

Regards,

John
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Old 05-13-2004, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: Compact Flash FPGA card

Flash card interface is a small cup of tea...

Kelvin



"John Williams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:c7ujfo$shq$[email protected]..
> Hi Iwo,
>
> Iwo Mergler wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a CF FPGA prototyping card. Do you know
> > of such a beast?
> >
> > The closest I could find so far is the Wildcard, combined
> > with a CF to PCMCIA adapter.

>
> I don't know of any other cards, but some second hand comments about the
> Wildcard:
>
> Someone I spoke to recently was complaining bitterly that the WildCard's
> communication interface between the FPGA and the PCMCIA bus is extremely
> narrow and slow, basically he was forced to do single-byte programmed
> reads/writes across that interface. Yuck.
>
> So, it seems to make the idea of using the Wildcard as a computational
> accelerator/coprocessor pretty useless - you just re-invent the
> bus-bound architecture...
>
> It may just be a problem with the host drivers, rather than the WildCard
> architecture itself, I'm not sure. If anyone from Annapolis is reading
> this it would be interesting to get clarification.
>
> Regards,
>
> John



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Old 05-13-2004, 11:13 AM
Iwo Mergler
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John Williams wrote:
> Hi Iwo,
>
> Iwo Mergler wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a CF FPGA prototyping card. Do you know
>> of such a beast?
>>
>> The closest I could find so far is the Wildcard, combined
>> with a CF to PCMCIA adapter.

>
>
> I don't know of any other cards, but some second hand comments about the
> Wildcard:
>
> Someone I spoke to recently was complaining bitterly that the WildCard's
> communication interface between the FPGA and the PCMCIA bus is extremely
> narrow and slow, basically he was forced to do single-byte programmed
> reads/writes across that interface. Yuck.
>
> So, it seems to make the idea of using the Wildcard as a computational
> accelerator/coprocessor pretty useless - you just re-invent the
> bus-bound architecture...
>
> It may just be a problem with the host drivers, rather than the WildCard
> architecture itself, I'm not sure. If anyone from Annapolis is reading
> this it would be interesting to get clarification.
>
> Regards,
>
> John


John,

thanks for the input. I'm mainly interested in transferring a
stream of data at 500KByte/sec, with tough real-time constraints.
With current hand-held/laptop devices the choice seems to be USB1.1
or CF.

USB1.1 is pretty much at its limit with this. It works, but
I have to use 8MB of buffer memory to cover the times when
the OS decides to go away and do something else for a few
seconds.

I was hoping to use some sort of DMA transfer via CF, to move
that buffer memory into the main memory and stop the OS from
interfering.

Kind regards,

Iwo
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Old 05-13-2004, 11:14 AM
Iwo Mergler
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Default Re: Compact Flash FPGA card

Student wrote:
> Flash card interface is a small cup of tea...
>
> Kelvin
>


Yes, and I'm trying to design a better teabag.
;^)

Iwo
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