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Old 07-23-2005, 03:23 AM
Brother Numzi
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Excellent point, Rune. )

I am a student starting on my final-year project so I am very focused on
what I can do to better my chances of getting a job....

Which DSP should I choose then? (to improve my chances of getting a job)

Thanks in advance...

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>
> Now, if $$$ is no concern of yours, and you can buy the latest, state-
> of-the-art DSP numbercruncher, you could use this project as an
> oportunity to get hands-on experience with the latest, hottest, meanest
>
> monster of the business. Even if this means ant living in castles or
> hunting rabbits with cruise missiles. The advantage is that you gain
> experience with using the newest chips that will be around for some
> time to come, and that might get you a job as a developer somewhere.
>



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Old 07-23-2005, 08:39 AM
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>Excellent point, Rune. )
>
>I am a student starting on my final-year project so I am very focused on
>what I can do to better my chances of getting a job....
>
>Which DSP should I choose then? (to improve my chances of getting a job)
>
>Thanks in advance...
>
>-------------------------
>>
>> Now, if $$$ is no concern of yours, and you can buy the latest, state-
>> of-the-art DSP numbercruncher, you could use this project as an
>> oportunity to get hands-on experience with the latest, hottest

meanest
>>
>> monster of the business. Even if this means ant living in castles or
>> hunting rabbits with cruise missiles. The advantage is that you gain
>> experience with using the newest chips that will be around for some
>> time to come, and that might get you a job as a developer somewhere.
>>

>


Since you discuss about being well prepared for a career, I thought yo
wold be interested in knowing the kind of stuff, so far beyond technolog
that can affect your job prospects.Today's world is a truly globa
village.

I have reproduced this online post from another forum made by a regula
there:

"SHARC is a well-designed, high-performance architecture and always ha
been. If this was yr 2000, we would use it (we *did* use it). But th
Internet has changed the nature of engineering. Complex, general-purpose
programmable chips must have online groups with 1000s of members tha
allow developers to ask questions and find out key information -
overnight, accurately, and independent of the chip vendor. The emphasi
now is not feature sets but availability of fast, peer group-base
technical support.

Today's development environment is global and super-competitive, and
don't see that Analog Devices has changed their thinking to meet the ne
level of competition.
I don't see ADI striving to be the number one DSP in India, China, an
Eastern Europe -- can they compete worldwide with Texas Inst in 5 years i
they don't do that?"

--Bhooshan


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Old 07-23-2005, 09:11 AM
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"bhooshaniyer" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>>Excellent point, Rune. )
>>
>>I am a student starting on my final-year project so I am very focused
>>on what I can do to better my chances of getting a job....
>>
>>Which DSP should I choose then? (to improve my chances of getting a
>>job)
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>>-------------------------
>>>
>>> Now, if $$$ is no concern of yours, and you can buy the latest,
>>> state- of-the-art DSP numbercruncher, you could use this project as
>>> an oportunity to get hands-on experience with the latest, hottest,

> meanest
>>>
>>> monster of the business. Even if this means ant living in castles or
>>> hunting rabbits with cruise missiles. The advantage is that you gain
>>> experience with using the newest chips that will be around for some
>>> time to come, and that might get you a job as a developer somewhere.
>>>

>>

>
> Since you discuss about being well prepared for a career, I thought
> you wold be interested in knowing the kind of stuff, so far beyond
> technology that can affect your job prospects.Today's world is a truly
> global village.
>
> I have reproduced this online post from another forum made by a
> regular there:
>
> "SHARC is a well-designed, high-performance architecture and always
> has been. If this was yr 2000, we would use it (we *did* use it). But
> the Internet has changed the nature of engineering. Complex,
> general-purpose, programmable chips must have online groups with 1000s
> of members that allow developers to ask questions and find out key
> information -- overnight, accurately, and independent of the chip
> vendor. The emphasis now is not feature sets but availability of fast,
> peer group-based technical support.
>
> Today's development environment is global and super-competitive, and I
> don't see that Analog Devices has changed their thinking to meet the
> new level of competition.
> I don't see ADI striving to be the number one DSP in India, China, and
> Eastern Europe -- can they compete worldwide with Texas Inst in 5
> years if they don't do that?"
>
> --Bhooshan
>


Bhooshan is one of the TI partisans that I expected to jump in.

You don't need 1000's of people to jump in when discussing the SHARC. The
architecture is straightforward. It doesn't take you 1/2 year to learn
the assembly language like certain TI DSPs (as stated in an earlier post
by Bhooshan).

I think you will find that the newer SHARCs stack up very well against
the various C67xx products. Both companies are constantly pushing the
envelope. This has been going on for a long time and I don't think we are
going to see a major shift in this battle in the foreseeable future.

I don't know the level of ADI support in India, but I can tell you it is
very good in the US. Both ADI and TI are good companies and both are very
serious about their DSP business.

Bhooshan is correct that the world is "flat". India, China, Eastern
Europe, etc were not serious players very many years ago. This has
certainly changed. This means we all have more peers and a larger
prospective market for our skills and products.

We have customers all over the world buying our SHARC based boards,
including India.


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Al Clark
Danville Signal Processing, Inc.
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Old 07-23-2005, 11:25 AM
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Brother Numzi skrev:
> Excellent point, Rune. )
>
> I am a student starting on my final-year project so I am very focused on
> what I can do to better my chances of getting a job....
>
> Which DSP should I choose then? (to improve my chances of getting a job)


That depends entirely on your talents, interests, what job you will
consider to be interesting in the future. On potential future
employers, as well. No one but you can make that decision.

Now, if you are completely stuck with respect to making a decision
on the DSPs, go ask your lab engineer what his processor of choise
is. In a hands-on type of project yours is likely to be, you will
need his help in the year to come.

A completely pragmatic choise of DSP, regardless of any questions
about "best architecture" or "future jobs", is based on what the
people around you use. You will need help in the year to come.
Just as well choose a DSP where the guy in the office next door
from you is willing (and able) to help you out.

At my university, we used matlab to do most of the development.
Some years ago, a new PhD student arrived to work on some ideas
that were developed at a different institute where they used IDL,
not matlab. This PhD student chose to use IDL in his work, since
that was what his contact used and he then could get access to
the existing IDL programs developed for the problem.

First of all, this PhD student was alone in the group to use IDL,
so he did not get help with lots of the small stuff. If you are
new to the program/system, that wastes a lot of time. Second, we
could not make use of his programs after he left, his was the only
IDL lisence available and no one else was very interested in buying
or learning IDL just to use a couple of routines.

Rune

> Thanks in advance...
>
> -------------------------
> >
> > Now, if $$$ is no concern of yours, and you can buy the latest, state-
> > of-the-art DSP numbercruncher, you could use this project as an
> > oportunity to get hands-on experience with the latest, hottest, meanest
> >
> > monster of the business. Even if this means ant living in castles or
> > hunting rabbits with cruise missiles. The advantage is that you gain
> > experience with using the newest chips that will be around for some
> > time to come, and that might get you a job as a developer somewhere.
> >


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