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Old 09-16-2008, 04:57 PM
Jerry Avins
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My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
soon.

Jerry
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Rune Allnor
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Default Re: OT: My thoughts are with you

On 16 Sep, 16:57, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> soon.


There is always groups.google.com. The downside is that you need
a valid email address to register, and you can't scramble that address
in post headers.

Rune
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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On Sep 16, 11:14*am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
> On 16 Sep, 16:57, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> > My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> > find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> > soon.

>
> There is always groups.google.com. The downside is that you need
> a valid email address to register, and you can't scramble that address
> in post headers.
>
> Rune


Easy enough... Create a free account and don't bother checking it.
Put a note to that effect in your posts.

Regards,
Ken
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:20 PM
Randy Yates
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Jerry Avins <[email protected]> writes:

> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> soon.


Jerry - why? SuperNews has been GREAT for me. I pay $3.95/mo for
unlimited text groups.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:22 PM
Jerry Avins
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Default Re: OT: My thoughts are with you

On Sep 16, 11:14*am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
> On 16 Sep, 16:57, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> > My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> > find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> > soon.

>
> There is always groups.google.com. The downside is that you need
> a valid email address to register, and you can't scramble that address
> in post headers.
>
> Rune


I posted that (and this) via Google, but I find it too hard to follow
a thread here. It doesn't keep track of what I've already read.

Jerry
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:31 PM
Laurence Sheldon
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Jerry Avins wrote:
> On Sep 16, 11:14 am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
>> On 16 Sep, 16:57, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>>> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>>> soon.

>> There is always groups.google.com. The downside is that you need
>> a valid email address to register, and you can't scramble that address
>> in post headers.


> I posted that (and this) via Google, but I find it too hard to follow
> a thread here. It doesn't keep track of what I've already read.


I switched from SuperNews when they soldout to GigaNews and the spam and
trolls when way up in the groups I watch to news.individual.net -- they
too are inexpensive and almost as good as SuperNews (hmmmm...maybe as
good as, now. I'll have to think about that a bit). The don't carry
the binary groups. (or didn't the last time I looked.)
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:54 PM
Paul E. Bennett
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Default Re: OT: My thoughts are with you

Jerry Avins wrote:

> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> soon.
>
> Jerry


Try:-

<http://www.individual.net/>

I have found that my software "Kontact" handles the streams from them
reasonably well and it is easy to follow threads.

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Old 09-16-2008, 07:58 PM
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Just thought I'd add to the discussion that panix.com will
still sell you a shell-only account for $100/year, with
mail and news, so that you can use your preferred older
UNIX shell-based newsreaders, and they are committed news
admins who are not going to discontinue/degrade their feeds.

Steve
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: OT: My thoughts are with you

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:57:02 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Avins
<[email protected]> wrote:

>My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>soon.



Hi Jerry,

I've gleaned these from other peoples postings:

===
Assuming that your Usenet needs are modest, use
http://news.aioe.org/ for free.

A minor FYI, motzarella's free news servers,
http://motzarella.org,
which I find quite reliable, add no ads - sort of a free
brunch ;-).
===

Maybe helpful (shrug). I haven't had to try something like
this just yet...

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Old 09-16-2008, 08:42 PM
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Jerry, I use Outlook Express to handle my newsgroups through
<groups.google.com>. It keeps track of all messages read (non-bold type) and
unread (bold type). To make the messages easier to read, Google up "OE
Quote-fix" and install it; make a desktop or task-bar icon of OE with Quote-fix
installed, and use that to start OE every time. Works great! I have had no
spam as a result of using Google Groups.

Martin Jensen

Jerry Avins wrote:
> On Sep 16, 11:14 am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
>> On 16 Sep, 16:57, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>>> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>>> soon.

>>
>> There is always groups.google.com. The downside is that you need
>> a valid email address to register, and you can't scramble that
>> address in post headers.
>>
>> Rune

>
> I posted that (and this) via Google, but I find it too hard to follow
> a thread here. It doesn't keep track of what I've already read.
>
> Jerry


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Old 09-16-2008, 11:11 PM
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"Jerry Avins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> soon.
>
> Jerry

..
I've found that Tera News is slow about starting to let you post
anything - it takes a few days after you start an account there.


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Old 09-16-2008, 11:22 PM
Robert Miles
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Default Re: OT: My thoughts are with you

Maybe that's why Google Groups is so friendly to spammers - they block
the spam from reaching their own users, even though Google Groups seems
to be the most frequently used newsgroups server for posting spam to the
rest of Usenet.
..
"Martin Jensen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Jerry, I use Outlook Express to handle my newsgroups through
> <groups.google.com>. It keeps track of all messages read (non-bold type)
> and unread (bold type). To make the messages easier to read, Google up
> "OE Quote-fix" and install it; make a desktop or task-bar icon of OE with
> Quote-fix installed, and use that to start OE every time. Works great! I
> have had no spam as a result of using Google Groups.
>
> Martin Jensen
>
> Jerry Avins wrote:
>> On Sep 16, 11:14 am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
>>> On 16 Sep, 16:57, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>>>> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>>>> soon.
>>>
>>> There is always groups.google.com. The downside is that you need
>>> a valid email address to register, and you can't scramble that
>>> address in post headers.
>>>
>>> Rune

>>
>> I posted that (and this) via Google, but I find it too hard to follow
>> a thread here. It doesn't keep track of what I've already read.
>>
>> Jerry

>



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Old 09-16-2008, 11:30 PM
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"Randy Yates" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Jerry Avins <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>> soon.

>
> Jerry - why? SuperNews has been GREAT for me. I pay $3.95/mo for
> unlimited text groups.
> --
> % Randy Yates % "The dreamer, the unwoken fool -

..
Probably because Tera News is cheaper (only one $3.95 payment
for a currently indefinite use, and with a limited access to binary
newsgroups included). They're somewhat slow about starting to
let you post anything after you start an account there, though.


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Old 09-16-2008, 11:38 PM
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"Paul E. Bennett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Jerry Avins wrote:
>
>> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>> soon.
>>
>> Jerry

>
> Try:-
>
> <http://www.individual.net/>
>
> I have found that my software "Kontact" handles the streams from them
> reasonably well and it is easy to follow threads.
>
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..
I thought about them after bellsouth.net dropped most of the binary
newsgroups, but they don't offer any of the binary newsgroups
bellsouth.net dropped. Looks like a cheap place to get text-only
newsgroups, if you don't trust the free text-only newsgroups
providers such as:

http://www.motzarella.org/


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Old 09-17-2008, 01:18 AM
Elizabeth D Rather
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Randy Yates wrote:
> Jerry Avins <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>> soon.

>
> Jerry - why? SuperNews has been GREAT for me. I pay $3.95/mo for
> unlimited text groups.


I'm happy with SuperNews, too. I use it with Thunderbird. Works great,
price is right. I started with them years ago, because relying on any
home ISP was no good since I travel a lot.

Cheers,
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:18 AM
Edwin Pawlowski
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"Jerry Avins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> soon.
>
> Jerry


You did respond to that verification email didn't you? Posts won't show
until you do.


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Old 09-17-2008, 04:13 AM
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Jerry Avins <[email protected]> wrote:

> My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> soon.


Plenty of free servers out there.

Motzarella.org
Aioe.org
usnet4all.com

etc...

-sw
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:58 PM
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On Sep 16, 1:20*pm, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:
> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> writes:
> > My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> > find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> > soon.

>
> Jerry - why? SuperNews has been GREAT for me. I pay $3.95/mo for
> unlimited text groups.


I paid a $3.95 sign-up fee and no monthly at all. The server is
free.teranews.com and that allows me 50 MB/day (headers don't count)
download and unlimited upload. Now if I could only post! (I'm working
on it.)

Jerry
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:59 PM
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Jerry Avins <[email protected]> writes:

> On Sep 16, 1:20*pm, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:
>> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> writes:
>> > My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
>> > find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
>> > soon.

>>
>> Jerry - why? SuperNews has been GREAT for me. I pay $3.95/mo for
>> unlimited text groups.

>
> I paid a $3.95 sign-up fee and no monthly at all. The server is
> free.teranews.com and that allows me 50 MB/day (headers don't count)
> download and unlimited upload. Now if I could only post! (I'm working
> on it.)


Well, if you can't post, you got ripped off.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:02 PM
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On Sep 16, 2:42*pm, "Martin Jensen" <hawkey...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jerry, I use Outlook Express to handle my newsgroups through
> <groups.google.com>. *It keeps track of all messages read (non-bold type) and
> unread (bold type). *To make the messages easier to read, Google up "OE
> Quote-fix" and install it; make a desktop or task-bar icon of OE with Quote-fix
> installed, and use that to start OE every time. *Works great! *I havehad no
> spam as a result of using Google Groups.
>
> Martin Jensen


Martin,

How does one use groups.google.com as a news server rather than as a
web-based news program? I'm in Google right now, but in a web page
where I have to use their format.

Jerry
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:08 PM
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On Sep 16, 5:11*pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
wrote:

...

> I've found that Tera News is slow about starting to let you post
> anything - it takes a few days after you start an account there.


Grrr! At least I know not to keep trying to reconfigure. Thanks for
the word.

Jerry
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:24 PM
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On Sep 16, 7:18*pm, Elizabeth D Rather <erat...@forth.com> wrote:

...

> I'm happy with SuperNews, too. *I use it with Thunderbird. *Works great,
> price is right. *I started with them years ago, because relying on any
> home ISP was no good since I travel a lot.


I never had trouble using news.rcn.com as a news server from anywhere.

I'll move my web site soon. Now that they RCN doesn't offer news
(binaries too) I have no reason to pay their highish price. A cheap
site host plus a cheap ISP will cost a bit less. Only spammers and
IEEE know my real email address anyway, so a move won't impact my
correspondence.

Jerry
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:28 PM
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On Sep 17, 12:59*pm, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:
> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> writes:
> > On Sep 16, 1:20*pm, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> writes:
> >> > My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> >> > find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> >> > soon.

>
> >> Jerry - why? SuperNews has been GREAT for me. I pay $3.95/mo for
> >> unlimited text groups.

>
> > I paid a $3.95 sign-up fee and no monthly at all. The server is
> > free.teranews.com and that allows me 50 MB/day (headers don't count)
> > download and unlimited upload. Now if I could only post! (I'm working
> > on it.)

>
> Well, if you can't post, you got ripped off.


Apparently, it's just a matter of time. I wish I hadn't had to find
out the hard way.

Jerry
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:23 PM
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"Jerry Avins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Sep 16, 1:20 pm, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:
> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> writes:
> > My ISP no longer provides news feeds, and I switched to Tera News. I
> > find that I read but posts don't show up. I hope it gets worked out
> > soon.

>
> Jerry - why? SuperNews has been GREAT for me. I pay $3.95/mo for
> unlimited text groups.


I paid a $3.95 sign-up fee and no monthly at all. The server is
free.teranews.com and that allows me 50 MB/day (headers don't count)
download and unlimited upload. Now if I could only post! (I'm working
on it.)

Jerry
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Sounds like my account ar Tera News. It took me a day or two to
be able to start uploading posta there, but then it took a few more days
for them to start doing anything with the posts I uploaded.

Robert


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Old 09-18-2008, 03:48 AM
Martin Jensen
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Jerry Avins wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2:42 pm, "Martin Jensen" <hawkey...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Jerry, I use Outlook Express to handle my newsgroups through
>> <groups.google.com>. It keeps track of all messages read (non-bold
>> type) and unread (bold type). To make the messages easier to read,
>> Google up "OE Quote-fix" and install it; make a desktop or task-bar
>> icon of OE with Quote-fix installed, and use that to start OE every
>> time. Works great! I have had no spam as a result of using Google
>> Groups.
>>
>> Martin Jensen

>
> Martin,
>
> How does one use groups.google.com as a news server rather than as a
> web-based news program? I'm in Google right now, but in a web page
> where I have to use their format.
>
> Jerry


My apologies to all! I just checked my server's DNS and found that it is
<news.comcast.net>, which is my ISP on cable. I was flat wrong, thanks to
rising dementia (it has reached my chin and is headed for my eye-teeth).

I was using Google Groups and I had exactly the experience you are having -- a
web page. I switched to <news.comcast.net> so readily and reliably that I
simply forgot that I made the move.

Sorry again.

Martin

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