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Old 05-15-2009, 04:09 PM
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Default derotation of GMSK I Q samples

there has been a thread that discussed de-rotation of received I,
samples, that the reason is freq synchorization.

Can someone explain in more details how this process is going? Suppose
received I, Q samples, I should first estimate the freq offset? then rotat
the IQ along the offset?

thanks
patrick


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Old 05-16-2009, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: derotation of GMSK I Q samples

On May 15, 10:09*am, "pzou" <patrick_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> there has been a thread that discussed de-rotation of received I, Q
> samples, that the reason is freq synchorization.
>
> Can someone explain in more details how this process is going? Suppose I
> received I, Q samples, I should first estimate the freq offset? then rotate
> the IQ along the offset?
>
> thanks
> patrick


That's one way to do it. Or, estimate the phase offset from each
symbol
and "track" it using an appropriate method, typically based on
feedback
filtering (the so-called loop filter). Or, use a PLL or Costas
loop.

If all of this sounds alien to you, let's start with something very
basic.
What are you trying to do and what is your background?

Julius
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: derotation of GMSK I Q samples

If you are talking about GMSK (as mentioned in the subject line), the
de-rotation is not for removing frequency offset. The purpose is
convert GMSK moduloation (which is a form of MSK) into BPSK. The
reason we do this is simply because it is much easier to build a
receiver for detecting BPSK. How/Why this equivalence is achieved
requires another short explanation and some deep thinking....

Regards
Piyush


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Old 05-19-2009, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: derotation of GMSK I Q samples

On 2009-05-15, pzou <[email protected]> wrote:
> there has been a thread that discussed de-rotation of received I, Q
> samples, that the reason is freq synchorization.
>
> Can someone explain in more details how this process is going? Suppose I
> received I, Q samples, I should first estimate the freq offset? then rotate
> the IQ along the offset?


You might want to read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_coding

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