On Dec 1, 9:35*pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
> brent wrote:
> > On Dec 1, 9:16 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >> brent wrote:
> >>> On Dec 1, 2:40 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
> >>>> Rune Allnor *<all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
> >>>>> On 1 Des, 19:21, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
> >>>>>> Don't buy it! *Don't let them control the debate.
> >>>>> Keep the politics out of this.
> >>>> Um, sorry, posting links to Wall Street Journal articles is
> >>>> injecting politics into. *Don't blame me.
> >>>>> In plain English: The climate models aren't good enough.
> >>>> "Aren't good enough" for what purpose? *What standard of
> >>>> proof is needed to make a political decision to implement
> >>>> more pollution controls?
> >>> The whole point of the global warming debate is whether CO2 is
> >>> pollution. *Why not use the word "CO2" instead of pollution. *I, for
> >>> one, do not view CO2 as pollution.
> >>> The CO2 controls (which you seem to think is clever to call pollution
> >>> controls) that seem to be desired by the GW folks, are really economic
> >>> controls and individual liberty controls.
> >> Rules against pissing in our well also limit our liberty. Are they a bad
> >> thing?
>
> >>>> *Ultimately this is a political
> >>>> decision, isn't it?
> >>>>> The argument has nothing to do with politics.
> >>>> Sure it does.
> >>>> Steve
> >> Jerry
> >> --
> >> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get..
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> > When do you plan to stop driving your automobile or stop using
> > electricity? *Please do not try to tell me that you use a
> > "responsible" amount. *You are a dirty gross polluting - piss in the
> > well- human being if you are emitting CO2. *I am simply taking your
> > point to its logical conclusion.
>
> I breathe. I fart. I limit my driving and use a car that logs 35 mpg
> highway with the AC on. I could do worse.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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So you are pissing in the well to. But your pissing is a little more
righteous than my pissing?

You also log onto your computer, you heat your home, you buy products
that require energy to produce. You buy food which was likely
harvested by oil powered farm equipment. If you recycle your garbage
you are contributing to CO2 pollution more than I do because I do not
summons a special filthy CO2 belching truck to come to my house once a
week to pick up three tin cans and a milk jug.