brent wrote:
> On Dec 1, 9:16 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
>> brent wrote:
>>> On Dec 1, 2:40 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>>> Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
>>>>> On 1 Des, 19:21, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>>>>> Don't buy it! Don't let them control the debate.
>>>>> Keep the politics out of this.
>>>> Um, sorry, posting links to Wall Street Journal articles is
>>>> injecting politics into. Don't blame me.
>>>>> In plain English: The climate models aren't good enough.
>>>> "Aren't good enough" for what purpose? What standard of
>>>> proof is needed to make a political decision to implement
>>>> more pollution controls?
>>> The whole point of the global warming debate is whether CO2 is
>>> pollution. Why not use the word "CO2" instead of pollution. I, for
>>> one, do not view CO2 as pollution.
>>> The CO2 controls (which you seem to think is clever to call pollution
>>> controls) that seem to be desired by the GW folks, are really economic
>>> controls and individual liberty controls.
>> Rules against pissing in our well also limit our liberty. Are they a bad
>> thing?
>>
>>>> Ultimately this is a political
>>>> decision, isn't it?
>>>>> The argument has nothing to do with politics.
>>>> Sure it does.
>>>> Steve
>> Jerry
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> When do you plan to stop driving your automobile or stop using
> electricity? Please do not try to tell me that you use a
> "responsible" amount. You are a dirty gross polluting - piss in the
> well- human being if you are emitting CO2. I am simply taking your
> point to its logical conclusion.

I breathe. I fart. I limit my driving and use a car that logs 35 mpg
highway with the AC on. I could do worse.

Jerry
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