Eric Jacobsen wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:38:19 -0500, robert bristow-johnson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>in article [email protected], Peter K. at
>>[email protected] wrote on 12/20/2005 22:24:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.fred.net/tds/noodles/noodle.html
>>>
>>>There ain't nothing like the scientific method!
>>>
>>
>>more FSMism. yum!
>>
>>anyway, on a more "serious" note, i was pleased as punch to hear the court
>>decision regarding ID in Pennsylvania where the judge called the ID
>>proponents (some specific persons such as the school board members that had
>>voted to inflict ID into the biology class and some to IDers in general)
>>that they were just "dishonest". and this judge is Bush appointee. it's
>>good someone in an official position is starting to cut the bullshit and
>>name this for what it is.
>
>
> What I liked about this ruling, as I understand it, is that ID was
> thrown out as inappropriate for a biology class. That's the right
> decision IMHO. If it were a philosophy or civics or comparative
> religion class or something along those lines I think it would be
> fine, but it's definitely not science and this is what the judge
> ruled.

I was watching one the educational channels a few weeks back about what
the media has dubbed "hobbit" that were found on Flores island. They
had a bunch of people called scientists row across the strait to the
island in a raft which the program described as being one of the most
treacherous bodies of water in the world. This was given as "evidence"
that it was plausible that homo erectus did the same. This don't seem
to me as being a rigorous argument.

There was a NOVA special on string theory a while back. One of the
things stated was that no one has yet figured out an experiment to
verify the validity of the theory. Several of the scientists featured,
asked the question, "Is this science?." It's sure as shit is taught in
physics classes at our best universities.

IMHO you really can't completely separate science from philosophy.

>
> More power to 'im. And I concur, finally somebody with some chops
> takes a stand.
>
> And thanks to Peter K for the original link, too. Pasta and beer for
> everyone! Yaaaay!
>
> Eric Jacobsen
> Minister of Algorithms, Intel Corp.
> My opinions may not be Intel's opinions.
> http://www.ericjacobsen.org