On 26 Jun 2006 20:18:42 -0700, "Peter Alfke" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Isn't Marketing wonderful...
>Here we are discussing which physical implementation is more secure,
>and dear Dave tells us that Altera was indeed smart enough to implement
>the algorithm correctly. I would never have stooped so low to doubt
>that. Yes, Altera can do logic design. Bravo! Advance to second grade!
>
>The question, however, was totally different: whether the key is
>secure. And that is nowhere mentioned in that long URL.
>Marketing 101:
>If you have nothing good to say, throw in a big bunch of irrelevant
>data.
>That might defuse the argument. and calm down the waves...
>
>Peter Alfke, who had expected a more relevant post from Altera.
>Don't treat us like dummies.

Hi Peter,

Isn't FUD wonderful...

At least they are not claiming anything which they haven't really
accomplished unlike the statements here:

"If I can get the IP that is a secret for less than $5,000, then I can
clone the devices without paying anything at all."

"*Disclaimer: non-volatile poly-efuse EM technology can be read out
by a microscope using polarized light for a total investment of less
than $5,000 "

and then changing the numbers when confronted if actually done:

"No, I have not cracked the Altera chip."

"My quote of $5,000 is what we pay to have a device ground down on the
backside such that we can do analysis on a device.

For another $5,000, one can get up to three or four FIB cuts, and a
couple of jumper wires. "

Now we are up to $10K. Then claiming:
"The question is not one of can I crack it (I believe I can), but one
of a ASSP vendor deciding to place their IP in a component that is not
in compliance with FIPS 140-2. Very, very simple."

I think it's put up or shut-up time, don't you think ? If you guys are
so sure, why don't you crack it / get it cracked and tell us how much
it costs instead of spreading FUD ?